Pacman vs. Hatton: THE PERFECT COMPARISON

[Johnny Rebel]

On paper there was no way that Hatton could beat Tszyu. Why not bump those fight predictions up?

Hatton/Pac will be just as close as the Tszyu fight and Ricky has a damn good chance at winning.

[whirlwind]

This has nothing to do with nationalism, and it has nothing really to do with personal preference. I have no problems with Manny Pac as a person, in fact I think he seems pretty cool and I admire how he uses his money to help people - moreover, I love watching his fights. My opinion is in no way being vocalized to somehow belittle Manny Pac as a fighter, or draw some lines between the US and Britain, so shut the **** up.

Secondly, despite what these people who sound like they would enjoy being Pacman's personal testicle massage therapist - they have reality to face. Manny Pac, for all his gifts in speed, power, and heart - is not made of Granite. I watched the Pac-Marquez II fight today and he is OFTEN wobbled by straight right hands from Marquez, and when he puts his punches together Marquez in a few moments gets close to putting Pac on his ass.

So if a FEATHERWEIGHT can do that to Pacman, how's a STRONG light welterweight going to make him feel? Don't be a ******. He's going to get laid the **** out.

4 greats legend mexican fighters plus the others mexs didn't able to put Pacman on his ass in their fights, so the only thing you can say is "few moments gets close to putting Pac on his ass" is just pathetic.

So you think Pacman will fight as a featherweight when he faces this light welterweight? I hope you will realize that Pacman use to spar and fight bigger guys and the added weight will only make him stronger and absorb the punches better.

[Felixion]

What I hope is that you learn proper English before you write another post that makes you sound like an idiot.

Spar with bigger guys? Haha, whoopty-****ing-doo. I'm hardly going to entertain the idea that sparring with some bigger guys is going to provide Pac with adequate preparation for fighting a man who is undefeated at LWW, and is the current World Champion.

I was never dis*****g whether or not the people on Pac's resume are legendary or not, but that doesn't change the fact that they were ****ING FEATHERWEIGHTS. So the fact that they didn't knock Pac out at their weight class is irrelavent. The issue for Pac is his ability to absorb shots at a beefed up WC. Which NONE of us have seen him do, which logic would suggest will cause problems for him after seeing how he responded to getting hit by featherweights.

Use your ****in' head.

[whirlwind]

What I hope is that you learn proper English before you write another post that makes you sound like an idiot.

Spar with bigger guys? Haha, whoopty-****ing-doo. I'm hardly going to entertain the idea that sparring with some bigger guys is going to provide Pac with adequate preparation for fighting a man who is undefeated at LWW, and is the current World Champion.

I was never dis*****g whether or not the people on Pac's resume are legendary or not, but that doesn't change the fact that they were ****ING FEATHERWEIGHTS. So the fact that they didn't knock Pac out at their weight class is irrelavent. The issue for Pac is his ability to absorb shots at a beefed up WC. Which NONE of us have seen him do, which logic would suggest will cause problems for him after seeing how he responded to getting hit by featherweights.

Use your ****in' head.

Since your native language is english it doesnt meant your a great master english tutor right? Idi@t! At least we try to learn it unlike you bragging about it just because you live with it. St@pid!

Back to the topic. You mean if pacman sparring with welterweight as before the OLDH fight. He will not/did not taste the power of the lightwelter weight? How about ODLH who landed a few punches on Pac in their fight? You mean ODLH punch as a featherweight or least to say LWW? The last time I check the fight took place at a WW. You write/speak proper english but your reasoning suck bigtime! Use your f@cking brain if you have idi@t!!

[Michelle21]

very funny thread mate.. there is no comparison at all.

[S A M U R A I]

Damn, Juan Manuel Marquez is pretty amazing. He didn't get too close to knocking Pac out though. Landed some nice shots. And another thing -- I heard Pac was struggling to get his weight low enough to fight Marquez, so I have a feeling he wasn't at his strongest at all. So hey, if it's OK to use the weight cutting excuses for Oscar, it's OK for Pac! Marquez is a f'king master boxer. He is slick, whereas Hatton is just raw.

Marquez >>> Hatton.

Shouldn't really be compared.



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[S A M U R A I]

Ok. Then. Do you have a point? Or are you going to keep recycling throw away lines that constantly appear on this site from self-assured losers who have nothing more than an agenda?

Oh wait, I know you're response because it's so original: Epic Fail.

Here's mine: You suck.

Yes I do have a point, and to reiterate:

Triangle theory can rarely be relied upon. There is a degree of logic to it, though. After all, most of us make an assessment of a fighter based on who he's beaten, but the old saying is true: style make fights.

You said:

considering that Pavlik beat Taylor twice at that weight who had beaten Hopkins at that weight, I think it might have been a factor.

Taylor is not all that good.

Bernard Hopkins is light years ahead of Pavlik at any weight. He has a far better skill set and much more experience. Many people thought Hopkins deserved the decision in both Taylor fights. That's why the decisions were slightly controversial and are still being discussed today.

Personally, I had Taylor winning the rematch against Pavlik. I thought he out-boxed Pavlik and was a point or two ahead. Unfortunately, judges don't usually score a fight the same way as I do, and in this case, they scored it mainly based on Pavlik's aggression. After that fight, I remember posting that I thought Taylor should have won, and that Pavlik is flat-footed, one-dimensional, and lacking in his technique. This proved to be very true later on when he faced Hopkins, just as I had predicted and bet on.

Bottom line: Triangle theory doesn't always work. I don't see a problem with what I'm saying.

So anyway... what's my agenda? Please let me know. I'm here to talk about boxing. That's all there is to it. There is no need to make things up and call me a loser. Contrary to what you may think, I do know what I'm talking about.



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[aether]

Lol at the thread title

[Naz Fan]

Pavlik and Hopkins are nothing like Hatton and Pacquiao.

[them_apples]

Hatton is more untested thatn Pac is, Pacquiao has fought many ATg's and Hofer's.