Money MAYWEATHER VS. Money MARGARITO: What Year Should it had Happen...???

[pistol whip]

I just want Margarito fans to answer a simple question....

what year was Margarito at his marketing and boxing peak...
or has he even reach his peak yet...??


WHAT YEAR WOULD HAVE PRODUCE THE BIGGEST HYPE AND BIGGEST FIGHT?

If you wanna talk economics then Mayweather should of fought Margarito instead of Judah. It would of been better moneywise because....

a) Judah had just dropped every ounce of credability he had since he had just lost to a no name fighter(Baldomir).

b) Margarito was the WBO champ and had his title for years. He wasn't anymore popular than Judah but he had won his last 2 title defenses which makes his alphabet title and reputation way more lucritive than Judah's.

[Ishy Aytan]

Listen close. Floyd will NEVER fight Margarito. They say never say never. Im saying NEVER! Marg could beat both Cotto and Willams in the rematch, and Floyd still would'nt fight him. Funny thing is, i feel Floyd has the ability to box circles around Margarito the way Cotto did for the entire first half of the fight. Floyd is too fast and elusive for Margarito.

I agree, but you can never say never. Im certain he would have fought Cotto had'nt he retired. If the fight with Margarito gets big, he'll be a fool not to take it. Lets get behind this fight. If the public demand it, and the demand gets huge, it will happen. Too much money for Floyd to turn down.

Remember his moto... If it makes money, it makes sense

[pistol whip]

Of course your entitled to your opinion. But now it just seems as if your picking off little details of fights to critisize him. Fact is Floyd only really moved to welter to get the De La Hoya fight. Margarito werent his attention at all. But if both fighters are fighting next year, and the fight gets big, we may hopefully get a chance to witness the fight in 2010.

His opinion actually match's what the Masses think of Floyd Mayweather. Great fighter but his fighting style bores casual fans and the fact that he's a doche bag outside the ring doesn't help.

I give him all the credit in the world even if I do think the second half of his career lacked any real risk. But a PPV darling he is not and a popular fighter he is not.

[DrewWoodside]

What does Horus want Mayweather to do? I hope to god Horus would like to see Mayweather fight again.

[Ishy Aytan]

His opinion actually match's what the Masses think of Floyd Mayweather. Great fighter but his fighting style bores casual fans and the fact that he's a doche bag outside the ring doesn't help.

I give him all the credit in the world even if I do think the second half of his career lacked any real risk. But a PPV darling he is not and a popular fighter he is not.

I don't really care what you think about him.... Listen we all want a Mayweather/Margarito fight. Thats what this topic was about. If you dont like him, thats up to you, its ur opinion and your entitled to it and i respect that.

I on the other hand give him immense credit for what he's acheived. He's the best fighter of the last decade, actually equal to Hopkins in my opinion. But thats my opinion.

[Ishy Aytan]

What does Horus want Mayweather to do? I hope to god Horus would like to see Mayweather fight again.

Yeh wheres this guy horus gone?

[Horus]

Floyd shoud've fought him in 2006 instead of fighting Baldomir. Floyd fanatics will use the excuse that Floyd fought Baldomir instead of Marg because Baldomir was the Lineal Champ. Ok, so if that was so important to Floyd, why did he dump the belt right after? Even more puzzling is, if Floyd was sooo concerned with becoming WW lineal champ, why did Floyd go chasing Spinks for a fight before Baldomir?

Floyd fanatics will tell u that Baldomir was the better option because Marg wasnt a household name. Was Baldomir??? Regardless of the fact that he had just beaten Judah and Gatti, people still didnt know who this guy was. They didnt even know his name. Marg on the other hand will always have the backing of a strong Mexican fanbase.

Floyd fanatics will tell u that Marg didnt deserve the shot because he had 5 losses. Ok, Baldomir had 9.

Floyd fans have to be the ONLY fans to make excuses for thier fighter NOT having to face challenges. Why woud u NOT want to see your fighter pushed to the limit? Im a big fan of Cotto, Pac, and JMM. Why would i NOT want to see them in the ring with the best possible opponents? I would never understand you guys!

I have no Problem with Floyd Fighting Margarito...
The Problem I have is when should it had of happen is my question and my problem...

For 2 Fighters to fight each other it has to be a give and take from both sides....NOT JUST 1 SIDE...

In 2006 Margarito was a unknown fighter and 1 of 3 Champions in the welterweight division with 4 Loses and No Name recognition. The only people who supported Margarito are the same people who support him today...A very small base of Fans...

Ask yourself a question what does a win over Margarito mean in 2006?????
who did he beat previously before 2006 to make him the Man..

His Best Wins were:Kermit Cintron and Joshua Clottey (Who Baldomir Beat)

In 2006 Baldomir best wins were : Zab Judah the (Lineal Welter Weight Champion...) Gatti, and Joshua Clottey.

So if you are a Objective Person, and you put those two resumes side by side in 2006 who resume looks better...???

Who is a better fighter Kermit Cintron or the Lineal Welter Weight Champion Zab Judah
Both Margarito and Baldomir Beat Clottey under suspect situations So their wins are both cross out..!!!

So what you have now is one guy who is now the Lineal Welter Weight Champion (Baldomir)

vs.

Another Guy who is just 1 of 3 Champions in the welterweight division.


WHO DO YOU PICK??


Come on used commonsense, Baldomir had been in more high profile fights than Margarito and Had bigger name fighters on his Resume than Margarito in 2006...

These are facts not Arguments....


Be objective....
What Facts do you bring to the table that conclude other wise....???

[Gopgop]

considering no one knew margarito til he fought cotto...i would say after the cotto fight duh lol. If margs fought bigger DLH then mayweather would have to come back and fight marg!

wavy

[Horus]

MAYWEATHER VS. MARGARITO SITUATION

The announcement of the fight never came, but several other shocking occurrences took place. The first occurrence did not surprise many insiders in the business as Mayweather declined the multi-million dollar offer to fight Margarito. The minute the fight was being talked about as an "almost done deal," numerous boxing experts, scribes, managers and fighters felts the fight would fall apart for one reason or another and it did.

The Mayweather camp says that a Margarito fight is still an option, just not on August 12. Apparently Mayweather's right hand, which he injured during the April 8 bout with Zab Judah, is still giving him problems and the general feeling in the camp is Mayweather will not be able to prepare in time for the August 12 date.

The second occurrence was something that many in business saw coming a mile away as Mayweather exercised a provision in his contract and paid Top Rank $750K to become a promotional free agent.

As Top Rank and several insiders have already stated, Mayweather has made the proper strategic maneuvers to position himself for a potential showdown with Oscar De La Hoya, which could possibly take place as early as September. Of course De La Hoya has to get past Ricardo Mayorga on May 6, and it is far from a guarantee that De La Hoya will win.

There are several reasons for the speculation that Mayweather's recent business decisions are due to a potential bout with Oscar De La Hoya. The first, Bob Arum, head of Top Rank, and De La Hoya, have been feuding ever since Oscar left Top Rank to start his own promotional company. The war of words between the two promoters have sometimes been public and often far from complimentary. De La Hoya went as far as to say that he would never make a fight with Mayweather as long as Arum as his promoter.

SOUNDS KINDA SIMULAR TO THE
FLOYD VS. COTTO SITUATION.....




With Oscar's announcement of only fighting two more times before sailing into retirement, Mayweather would have had to make a career decision in order to position himself at the head of the Golden Boy sweepstakes. Either call De La Hoya's bluff and move forward with Arum, or dump Arum in order to eliminate the biggest obstacle in making the fight a reality. According to many, Mayweather took no chances and left Arum.
If Mayweather went forward with Margarito in August, a September date with De La Hoya would have been a daydream. On the other hand, Mayweather reportedly left on good terms with Arum, meaning that if De La Hoya should lose on May 6, Mayweather still has an open door to easily make a bout with Margarito before the end of the year.

Mayweather's recent business decisions make total sense in the long run. Margarito is no hurry to leave the sport, at 28-years-old, the highly respect fighter will be around for several more years. The Golden ship on the hand is set to sail by the end of the year. The bout with De La Hoya, worth millions more than the bout with Margarito is a once in a life time opportunity for Mayweather.

If De La Hoya is successful against Mayorga, the road will be wide open for two of the most popular fighters in the sport to come together and stage one of the largest fights in the last couple of years. The storyline alone is enough to sell the fight on pay-per-view. De La Hoya, trained by Mayweather's father, Floyd Sr., fights Mayweather who is trained by his uncle Roger, his father's brother. The family angle, the new generation taking out the old, and everything else in between makes this bout a sure moneymaker.


Bob Arum has already announced a backup plan for August 12, a pay-per-view rematch between WBC heavyweight champion Hasim Rahman and mandatory challenger Oleg Maskaev.

[Horus]

READ THIS: And Objectively tell me who the hell would do things differently????

Arum offered Floyd 8 million dollars to fight Antonio Margarito and Mayweather rejected the offer and reportedly paid Arum 750,000 dollars to get out of his contract with Top Rank. I don’t think Floyd is deathly afraid of Margarito, but Floyd realizes that if he took that bout he would lose any chance of fighting Oscar De La Hoya.



As Top Rank and several insiders have already stated, Mayweather has made the proper strategic maneuvers to position himself for a potential showdown with Oscar De La Hoya, which could possibly take place as early as September. Of course De La Hoya has to get past Ricardo Mayorga on May 6, and it is far from a guarantee that De La Hoya will win.

There are several reasons for the speculation that Mayweather's recent business decisions are due to a potential bout with Oscar De La Hoya. The first, Bob Arum, head of Top Rank, and De La Hoya, have been feuding ever since Oscar left Top Rank to start his own promotional company. The war of words between the two promoters have sometimes been public and often far from complimentary. De La Hoya went as far as to say that he would never make a fight with Mayweather as long as Arum as his promoter.



With Oscar's announcement of only fighting two more times before sailing into retirement, Mayweather would have had to make a career decision in order to position himself at the head of the Golden Boy sweepstakes. Either call De La Hoya's bluff and move forward with Arum, or dump Arum in order to eliminate the biggest obstacle in making the fight a reality. According to many, Mayweather took no chances and left Arum.
If Mayweather went forward with Margarito in August, a September date with De La Hoya would have been a daydream. On the other hand, Mayweather reportedly left on good terms with Arum, meaning that if De La Hoya should lose on May 6, Mayweather still has an open door to easily make a bout with Margarito before the end of the year.

Mayweather's recent business decisions make total sense in the long run. Margarito is no hurry to leave the sport, at 28-years-old, the highly respect fighter will be around for several more years. The Golden ship on the hand is set to sail by the end of the year. The bout with De La Hoya, worth millions more than the bout with Margarito is a once in a life time opportunity for Mayweather.