Stop the ROBBERY bull****. The Fightwriter has spoken.

[BattlingNelson]

I dont know if he did or not. but didnt half the people that watched the fight think it was a near shutout for Holyfield?
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http://boxing.about.com/b/2008/12/21...-in-zurich.htm

http://www.badlefthook.com/2008/12/2...bbed-of-win-ov

http://www.8countnews.com/news/125/A...008-12-20.html

http://insidefights.com/2008/12/20/h...gainst-valuev/

http://www.***********.com/boxing_ne...in-zurich.html

http://www.ringsideinsider.com/2008/...ld-robbed.html

http://www.urlfan.com/local/holyfiel...132662091.html

http://life.atlantafalcons.com/index...&#entry4298987

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=18&f=1717&t=3640671

http://www.klintoe.org/2008/12/20/holyfield-got-robbed/

http://thefightnetwork.com/print/245...against_valuev

http://buzz.yahoo.com/article/1:y_sp...4f859996c554fb

http://twitter.com/celebitchy/status/1069641737

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...yfield.valuev/
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...yfield.valuev/
http://www.15rounds.com/follow-value...d-live-122008/

thanks to Flawless for that.

Neither BBC or ITV talks about robbery.

Check The Sun newspaper who always covers boxing in depth: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle2059489.ece

Again no robbery. I'm sure I can make a list as well. And since those articles flawless posted likely are internetsites I bet that not half of them watched the fight from ringside.

[Steak]

Neither BBC or ITV talks about robbery.

Check The Sun newspaper who always covers boxing in depth: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle2059489.ece

Again no robbery. I'm sure I can make a list as well. And since those articles flawless posted likely are internetsites I bet that not half of them watched the fight from ringside.

the Sun didnt even have a round by round or their final score. and you say those other sites didnt even watch the fight? mmhmm.

and whats this? on the BBC site?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A45113302

Who wrote that BBC article? It was terrible! Holyfield was robbed.

Dear Sir/Madam

Many boxing fans including myself respect the WBA as one of the most prestigious belts that a boxer can hold in any weight division.

However I have no doubt that I am not the first and I have equally no doubt that I will not be the last to complain about the abysmal decision in the Holyfield-Valuev last night.

As a many boxing analysts have pointed out Holyfield was clearly dominant for all of the fight and not once did Valuev have him troubled or harmed. In fact Valuev barely threw a punch. Besides two of the judges at ringside I don't think a single person watching had Valuev winning any of the 12 rounds. The other judge had it a draw. As you know there has been a great uproar at the decision and the obvious course of action to save your company prestige is to order an immediate rematch. That way your company will not come under criticism from the media and boxing fans around the world.

If a rematch is not plausible then an investigation into the decision is at the very least is needed.

If wish to contact me just reply to this email.

Yours Faithfully

well, guess its not just Americans.

[optkliluzn]

I had you winning the gay vote 119-113 what a landslide....... The fight wasn't even that close

Following last nights controversial decision in the Valuev-Holyfield bout NSB has been over the top with cries of robbery, foul play and worse.

I had Holyfield winning 115-113 so I found it a close fight. Not a robbery as I could understand somebody giving the nod to Valuev.

I just checked the fight report from the great reporter Graham Houston (the fightwriter) and he scored it for Valuev! Mr. Houston is arguably the best boxing reporter in the world. Here's the relevant passages from his report:

"What on earth is all the fuss about? Nikolai Valuev was unimpressive, no argument, and Evander Holyfield showed that at 46 he is still a fighter to be taken seriously, but the decision in Saturday’s heavyweight title fight in Zurich was hardly one of the worst of all time.

This could have been scored for either fighter. It so happened that Valuev got the majority decision. One point on one judge’s card was all that kept this from being a draw. It was that close. The 116-112 score in favour of Valuev by the Italian judge seemed too wide, but I had no quarrel with 115-114 in favour of Valuev by Swedish judge Mikael Hook or the 114-114 score by Guillermo Perez, from Panama. I actually had Valuev winning, 115-113.

The fuss about the scoring, I believe, comes in large part from the TV commentary that had Holyfield winning practically every round.

Then we had the Swiss fans getting right behind Holyfield and cheering every time the great old warrior landed a punch or made an aggressive thrust.

....

The thing is, disputed decisions and refereeing controversies happen everywhere although it helps to be the fighter on home ground.

I hope I don’t sound as if I’m knocking Nick Charles and Al Bernstein, gentlemen who have been watching boxing for many years. Maybe they were completely right about Valuev-Holyfield and I was completely wrong. We see it the way we see it, and it is one of the intriguing things about boxing that two people can watch the same fight and see it differently.

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And yet, sorry, I can’t go with the tide of condemnation over the Valuev-Holyfield scoring. The decision was debatable, that’s for sure, but in this minority view it was no robbery."

The whole article is here: http://www.fightwriter.com/?q=node/2020

[BattlingNelson]

the Sun didnt even have a round by round or their final score. and you say those other sites didnt even watch the fight? mmhmm.

and whats this? on the BBC site?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A45113302


well, guess its not just Americans.

I said they probably werent ringside.

[Derranged]

The decision stunk. It doesnt matter though, Valuev will lose once he fights a credible opponent, either when he fights an American in the US or another good euro fighter in Germany.

[MANGLER]

The fight was awful, but Holy did more than Valuev and shoulda won.

[Flawless.]

If you don't think Holyfield won you have a hidden agenda that's all I can say really. Maybe BatTheMan is trying to hide the shame that is European judges. Did you guys remember what happened to Danny Williams

[Steak]

I said they probably werent ringside.

what about the 12000 Swiss fans that booed the decision?
oh wait, wasnt the commentary ringside too? yep.

ah, but youre going to say they were all biased. mmhmm. thank goodness that the 5 people that had Valuev winning werent biased, while the rest of the world was.

[Derranged]

Bull**** decision. Unbelievable people are arguing about it.

[Ryn0]

Holyfield was definatly robbed, he looked awful as did Valuev but atleast he was landing and he landed with some bigish looking shots. Valuev landed next to nothing, there was the odd pawing jab here and there but it was pathetic.