Mayweather FANS ONLY thread..!!! How does pbf get respect??? (NO FLAMERS WANTED)!!!

[Horus]

Im not agreeing or disagreeing with anything Mayweather says.

I'm just saying, if haters think Mayweather's opponents suck...and Mayweather thinks his opponents suck...his opponents probably suck right?

You cant diss his haters for doing exactly what he's doing. It just doesn't make sense?

And My reply is:

So if you want to agree with Floyd when he talks ****...

Why dont you agree with him when he says he is the greatest ever..???


Are do you just use selective Hearing, and agree when it fits your argument..??


The point is that you cant say while he said so it is true in one case...
and then do the exact opposite in another case...

because that means that you actually understand the difference between
talking **** and reality...and you are using backwards logic if people follow your reasoning...

[djsygo]

Im not agreeing or disagreeing with anything Mayweather says.

I'm just saying, if haters think Mayweather's opponents suck...and Mayweather thinks his opponents suck...his opponents probably suck right?

You cant diss his haters for doing exactly what he's doing. It just doesn't make sense?

nah man its not like that, fighters talk **** because they have to make controvercy. Remember ali talking about Foreman as the mummy that never catches you? Do you think he really believed he wasnt all that? Do Foreman was crap because Ali won? Or was ali a great fighter who was able to get under his skin and come with a great gameplan? Same **** Floyd does.

Btw, i wasnt crying for the haters, i could care less what the haters of Floyd say man...they make me laugh because in the end, they are his fan surely more than me. I was just responding to the threadstarter with my thoughts

[Naz Fan]

And My reply is:

So if you want to agree with Floyd when he talks ****...

Why dont you agree with him when he says he is the greatest ever..???


Are do you just use selective Hearing, and agree when it fits your argument..??


The point is that you cant say while he said so it is true in one case...
and then do the exact opposite in another case...

because that means that you actually understand the difference between
talking **** and reality...and you are using backwards logic if people follow your reasoning...

Its not about using selective hearing. Mayweather claims to be the greatest, but people can not listen to that when he is talking crap about his own opponents.

Lets do the math

Floyd claims hes the greatest?

Floyd says his opponents are garbage + Fans think his opponents are garbage=...yeah you guessed it.




It's SO hypocritical of you fanboys slamming Floyd haters for doing something Floyd himself is doing. Can you not process that? They're doing what Floyd is doing...

[Naz Fan]

nah man its not like that, fighters talk **** because they have to make controvercy. Remember ali talking about Foreman as the mummy that never catches you? Do you think he really believed he wasnt all that? Do Foreman was crap because Ali won? Or was ali a great fighter who was able to get under his skin and come with a great gameplan? Same **** Floyd does.

Btw, i wasnt crying for the haters, i could care less what the haters of Floyd say man...they make me laugh because in the end, they are his fan surely more than me. I was just responding to the threadstarter with my thoughts

I agree with you bro. Floyd has ONE OF THE BEST records in modern boxing.

The problem is, his haters use the EXACT same excuses to doubt his legacy as he did to put his opponent down before the fight.

[slick23]

"Floyd is ducking" is code language for: Im a hater and I want to see this bastard lose before I die.


I dont mind the critics, I just wish they would mix a bit more logic and reason into their arguments.

Alright folks you ready for some logic, here goes. Floyd is a terrific fighter, the most skilled in the world today but he has no buisness fighting in the welterweight division if he is not going to attempt to fight welterweights. To avoid being a hypocrite let me say this, Floyd picks fights which brings the fans attention,thus generating cash for himself and interest in the sport. Let's look at four of his last five fights, Hatton, De la hoya Judah, and Gatti. All are big names but none of these fighters posed a threat (De la Hoya aside) as dangerous as any of the top welterweights such as Margarito, Mosely, Williams, Clottey, Cotto, hell even Collazo, Cintron and Quintana. I'm leaving Berto's name out because he has just recently grabbed attention. Now Pacquiao beats Oscar, and all the Mayweather rumors start flying. Well if Manny gets by Hatton that's fine, it would be interesting, but it sure as hell better not happen at 147. Same with a Hatton rematch, which I hope doesn't happen anyway. Floyd is perfect for 140, and one of the best lightweights ever period, but when we get to discussing his reign at 147,and he preaches about his dominance that is where the issue is. Hey,I'll even lay of Floyd and blame boxing not having any form of standard rules on becoming and retaining a chapionship. Boxing does not market their fighters the way they should, and part of me thinks well if Floyd can get payed five times the money to fight Gatti or a shot De la Hoya or even a smaller Ricky Hatton than so be it, but man does it seem wrong from a purist's point of view who genuinely loves the sport and knows that the sport in general is lacking big time credibility.

[Buckfever]

For respect he has to beat Margarito. Or if Cotto beats Margarito in the rematch, then Cotto. He has to beat someone in their prime, who can hurt him. He doesn't have the Ali/Foreman or the Sugar-Ray/Hagler win.

Manny would be exciting and a great payday, but that doesn't get him respect. That fight win or lose increases Manny's respect.

Obviously right now though the momentum for a big money fight is with Manny if he beats Hatton.

[The Hammer]

If Mayweather comes out of retirement and fights either Paul Williams or Antonio Margarito, then I will respect him.

He doesn't even have to win.

[S A M U R A I]

Why dont you agree with him when he says he is the greatest ever..???

Because we're not all gullible.

Because, unlike Mr. Ray Robinson, he isn't 125-1 by age 30, and he hasn't had 202 fights in a career that has spanned from lightweight to light heavyweight?

He is 39-0 against some good opponents, some less than good ones, and some who are pretty much garbage.

Seems rather pathetic when you put it like this.



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[Njord777]

Floyd Mayweather isn't just undefeated. 'Money' wasn't just the best pound for pound fighter in the sport. Floyd Mayweather Jr. was the self-proclaimed "creme de la creme", best boxer in the history of the sport. He played the villian because, quite obviously, people were throwing money at him to watch him lose. My roommate doesn't watch boxing, caught a 24/7 with Floyd, and now will watch every fight he can to see the guy eat it.

That choice, though, was Floyd's. He made the decision to boost his bank account by flipping the script and taking on the 'bad guy' persona. It's quite obvious he's very confident and intentionally puts his ego on display in a dramatized way because it sells. Ali did the same thing, but was a little more slick in his insults and overall verbal skills and so wasn't quite as hated for it.

So, Floyd's lack of respect comes mainly from people who- admit it or not- are plainly rubbed the wrong way by Floyd's antics. See, Pacquiao is pound for pound right now and no one wants to take his crown from him if he doesn't fight Margarito, Williams, Berto or other threats at welterweight (or 140, really). Mainly, I believe, because he doesn't talk much outside the ring, is respectful, and generally seems to try and please his fans and do his best.

Floyd, on the other hand, is a slick boxer- a style that isn't knock-out oriented, which already puts him behind in some eyes- and proclaims himself as the best. It's not so much, to me, that Floyd's overall resume is so lacking he's losing respect. It's more that Floyd has chosen to run his mouth so much he has to fight every perceived threat or come off very phony.

If Floyd came back and became a "nice guy" - went undefeated while fighting some good names, if not all challangers, for the next few years- I bet he'd get that respect. If he's says he's clearly the best ever and disrespects others, though, people won't be satisfied until he's utterly cleared out all challengers at welterweight - possibly even a few of the smaller guys at 140 or 154. That's the drawback of his persona. He has to "put his 'Money' where his mouth is'.

[Flawless.]

Beat Pacman Cotto Margarito Williams Pavlik after all that, he is ducking Dawson and Kessler