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  • Dorian
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    #11
    i gave valuev 3 rounds.. and 1 even so lets just say/force a 4th round but wow

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      #12
      Originally posted by KostyaTszyu44
      shut up you biased euro piece of ****

      LOL, That's really funny....

      I don't know what the big deal is. Both these guys suck, it's kind of a lose-lose situation for fans no matter who won.

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      • El Dominicano
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        #13
        I'm ***in pissed yo! for real

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        • BattlingNelson
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          #14
          Originally posted by blackirish137
          A judge had Valuev winning 8 rounds to 4. Are you serious with this? Holyfield won 5 of the first 6 rounds without question.

          no one on this entire site had Valuev winning. not one.
          I know that I watched on tele and the judges watched ringside. I also know that a lot of the rounds were void of action hence close, so points must by rule be given to the aggressor.

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          • evilp0ptart
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            #15
            Originally posted by BatTheMan
            I know that I watched on tele and the judges watched ringside. I also know that a lot of the rounds were void of action hence close, so points must by rule be given to the aggressor.
            I believe an exact quote from Al Bernstein during this fight was

            "Valuev has not won any round the entire fight by aggression"

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            • Sutekh uvdabrix
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              #16
              @ anyone saying it wasnt a robbery


              valuev=landed under 20 jabs...ZERO power punches

              holy=landed power punches in every round...and more hooks than nikolai jabs


              ****in incredible

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              • Steak
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                #17
                Originally posted by BatTheMan
                I know that I watched on tele and the judges watched ringside. I also know that a lot of the rounds were void of action hence close, so points must by rule be given to the aggressor.
                tell me. what was the crowds reaction to the fight?

                and if no one at all thinks that Valuev won other than the judges...then surely its a robbery? If I wanted to, I look at Chavez vs. Whitaker and pick out 6 rounds that Chavez could have won. its still arobbery, because no one actually had him winning that many rounds.

                couldve sworn I heard Valuevs trainer saying he needed a knockout to win....

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                • Zhaakal
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                  #18
                  Reminded me a bit of the Jones vs. Park Si Hun amateur bout as far as judgeing goes. Definately not that dominating but a CLEAR victory to Holyfield.

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                  • aljosa_raos
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                    #19
                    I got like 10-2 for HOLYFIELD.BIGGEST ROBBERY!
                    IT WOULD BE ROBBERY IF IT WAS DRAW but MAJORITY DECISION horrible!!!

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                    • The_Visitation
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by BatTheMan
                      The question one gotta ask oneself is: Could you see the other guy winning? Although I had Holyfield winning, I can understand the 2 judges that saw it differently.
                      I honestly can't. The worse I can see it is 114-114 even with every round I saw as close going to Valuev. How you could give it to him by four rounds is totally beyond me.

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