Joe Calzaghe is #1 P4P and not Manny Pac; here is why?

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  • bsrizpac
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    #31
    Originally posted by Benny Leonard
    NO EXCUSES:

    A little history about myself

    Since I was a boy I had this "something" inside me to ask "why?"
    This "Why" curiosity led me to great discoveries in my life. For example: Why do "charlie horses" hurt so damn much? Why does watermelon make you piss through your ass? Why does Vodka and ******* go so well together in the morning?
    Great questions like that have baffled me and historians.

    Moving along:

    It has been brought to my attention by certain posters that we are no longer allowed to use "reason(s)" and logic for that matter, because Reason(s) equal Excuses.

    So no longer should we look into the history of the fighters; no longer shall we investigate why a fighter won or lost; no longer shall we "reason" what happened to the fighter(s) before, during, and after the match (for future fights).

    If a Fighter Wins, it was because he was just the better Man. If he loses, he was just the weaker of the two.


    So breaking down Joe Calzaghe and Manny Pac's resume based on this new revolutionary logic, here is how I came to the simple conclusion Joe is number One and not Manny Pac.

    Joe "The Legend Killer" Calzaghe
    won 46 (KO 32) + lost 0 (KO 0) + drawn= 0

    Manny "Not Unbeatable" Pacquiao
    won 48 (KO 36) + Lost 3 (KO 2) + drawn 2 = 53

    So what strikes you as different between these two?
    I'll give you a hint; it's in the red.

    If you notice, the Red for Joe "The Legend Killer" Calzaghe has "0" losses and "0" draws.

    Manny "Not Unbeatable" Pacquiao, if you notice in the red, has 3 losses and 2 draws.

    So using the "no excuses" logic, I asked myself a simple question: Which Fighter would I want to be based on records? The answer, the guy that was undefeated of course...especially since the other fighter had been KTFO twice.

    In addition, as I looked through their resume to see who they fought, but of course I didn't want to investigate the fights since that doesn't work in "no excuses," I found this:

    Joe "The Legend Killer" Calzaghe:

    Last three fights alone against the Legendary Roy "Mr. Unstoppable" Jones Jr; The Legendary Bernard "The Executioner" Hopkins; and Mikkel "Viking Warrior" Kessler {who was undefeated and held a title}. WOW, the nicknames alone are terrifying and should add points to Joe's resume.
    Continuing on we have Jeff "Left-hook" Lacey, who was deemed the Tyson of the 168 pound division, who also held a title and was undefeated.
    This was just in the last two years....AMAZING.

    Let's go to COLOR="Magenta"]Manny "I've been KTFO 2 times" Pacquiao: [/COLOR]we'll only stick with the so called "legends."

    Manny has some great wins over Oscar "I choke in my big fights" De La Hoya. Marco "Baby Face " Barrera; and Erik "Holocaust Survivor of 2006" Morales.

    Well, that's about it.

    So let's go to the losses:

    WOW, hope I can read this long list ; oh, "0"

    Manny "I will only fight you if you are weight-drain and shot" Pacquiao:
    Hopefully this is a good one because I'm a big fan....OH ****: 3 losses.
    Hopefully these guys are "legends"; it won't be so bad if they are Legends.

    YES! I see one legend. Erik "I schooled Manny's ass even though I'm on Social Security" Morales. Loss count = 1

    Moving on...and...???
    Medgoen Singsurat.
    How did Pac lose to him? Maybe it was poor judging; let me check.
    Eh, just watched the fight...Manny was KTFO. Hopefully this guy was some type of legend because he certainly proved to be the better fighter.

    Moving on...and...WTF?
    Rustico "The Newspaper Boy" Torrecampo. EH....I'm going to have to check how he lost; maybe it was poor judging this time, really. Ah, ****: just watched the fight, not long at all...Manny was knocked out by this legend.


    So, that's my results on this revolutionary thinking of "No Excuses."


    Thank You for reading and most importantly; Thank You "Certain Posters" for bringing this to my attention.

    Excellent troll bait thread. Hilarious how many people think you are serious and this is a good argument for Joe. Awesome. Truly you have captured the essence of Horus.

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    • optkliluzn
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      #32
      DAMN UR A Genious.....I gues then by you "criteria in RED" Calzaghe is better than Ali and Foreman, and Sugar Ray Leonard and everyone else out there that lost a bout! Hey yeah that makes sense.....some schmuck sits in Europe to fight only europeans for 20 years then gets out 2 fight past there prime fighters....yeah that makes sense....screw Ali, but I guess Marciano is STILL WAY better than Calzaghe could ever dream right?!
      Originally posted by Benny Leonard
      NO EXCUSES:



      little history about myself

      Since I was a boy I had this "something" inside me to ask "why?"
      This "Why" curiosity led me to great discoveries in my life. For example: Why do "charlie horses" hurt so damn much? Why does watermelon make you piss through your ass? Why does Vodka and ******* go so well together in the morning?
      Great questions like that have baffled me and historians.

      Moving along:

      It has been brought to my attention by certain posters that we are no longer allowed to use "reason(s)" and logic for that matter, because Reason(s) equal Excuses.

      So no longer should we look into the history of the fighters; no longer shall we investigate why a fighter won or lost; no longer shall we "reason" what happened to the fighter(s) before, during, and after the match (for future fights).

      If a Fighter Wins, it was because he was just the better Man. If he loses, he was just the weaker of the two.


      So breaking down Joe Calzaghe and Manny Pac's resume based on this new revolutionary logic, here is how I came to the simple conclusion Joe is number One and not Manny Pac.

      Joe "The Legend Killer" Calzaghe
      won 46 (KO 32) + lost 0 (KO 0) + drawn= 0

      Manny "Not Unbeatable" Pacquiao
      won 48 (KO 36) + Lost 3 (KO 2) + drawn 2 = 53

      So what strikes you as different between these two?
      I'll give you a hint; it's in the red.

      If you notice, the Red for Joe "The Legend Killer" Calzaghe has "0" losses and "0" draws.

      Manny "Not Unbeatable" Pacquiao, if you notice in the red, has 3 losses and 2 draws.

      So using the "no excuses" logic, I asked myself a simple question: Which Fighter would I want to be based on records? The answer, the guy that was undefeated of course...especially since the other fighter had been KTFO twice.

      In addition, as I looked through their resume to see who they fought, but of course I didn't want to investigate the fights since that doesn't work in "no excuses," I found this:

      Joe "The Legend Killer" Calzaghe:

      Last three fights alone against the Legendary Roy "Mr. Unstoppable" Jones Jr; The Legendary Bernard "The Executioner" Hopkins; and Mikkel "Viking Warrior" Kessler {who was undefeated and held a title}. WOW, the nicknames alone are terrifying and should add points to Joe's resume.
      Continuing on we have Jeff "Left-hook" Lacey, who was deemed the Tyson of the 168 pound division, who also held a title and was undefeated.
      This was just in the last two years....AMAZING.

      Let's go to COLOR="Magenta"]Manny "I've been KTFO 2 times" Pacquiao: [/COLOR]we'll only stick with the so called "legends."

      Manny has some great wins over Oscar "I choke in my big fights" De La Hoya. Marco "Baby Face " Barrera; and Erik "Holocaust Survivor of 2006" Morales.

      Well, that's about it.

      So let's go to the losses:

      WOW, hope I can read this long list ; oh, "0"

      Manny "I will only fight you if you are weight-drain and shot" Pacquiao:
      Hopefully this is a good one because I'm a big fan....OH ****: 3 losses.
      Hopefully these guys are "legends"; it won't be so bad if they are Legends.

      YES! I see one legend. Erik "I schooled Manny's ass even though I'm on Social Security" Morales. Loss count = 1

      Moving on...and...???
      Medgoen Singsurat.
      How did Pac lose to him? Maybe it was poor judging; let me check.
      Eh, just watched the fight...Manny was KTFO. Hopefully this guy was some type of legend because he certainly proved to be the better fighter.

      Moving on...and...WTF?
      Rustico "The Newspaper Boy" Torrecampo. EH....I'm going to have to check how he lost; maybe it was poor judging this time, really. Ah, ****: just watched the fight, not long at all...Manny was knocked out by this legend.


      So, that's my results on this revolutionary thinking of "No Excuses."


      Thank You for reading and most importantly; Thank You "Certain Posters" for bringing this to my attention.

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      • 5punchcombo
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        #33
        Calzaghe never fought prime talent like Pacquiao did

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        • dde91
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          #34
          Originally posted by Wales08
          Intresting thread minus the young ones who throw insults in.

          Joe and Pac are good and proved it well. At this moment in time i would have Joe and Pac joint p4p. Calzaghe overall is better then Pac i can safely say and thread starter backed this up so no need for me to repeat.

          One thing though is respect when its due.
          Overall better my ass. Pac has more power, speed, and a better Chin.

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          • dde91
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            #35
            Pound 4 pound

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            • dummy17th
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              #36
              the OP already admit it.. he use ******* and vodka at the same time..
              so please this guy is already crazy of too much alcohol and drugs..
              dont expect any good reasoning from this guy..

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              • Wales08
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                #37
                Originally posted by dde91
                Overall better my ass. Pac has more power, speed, and a better Chin.
                I disagree.

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                • mellow_mood
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                  NO EXCUSES:

                  A little history about myself

                  Since I was a boy I had this "something" inside me to ask "why?"
                  This "Why" curiosity led me to great discoveries in my life. For example: Why do "charlie horses" hurt so damn much? Why does watermelon make you piss through your ass? Why does Vodka and ******* go so well together in the morning?
                  Great questions like that have baffled me and historians.

                  Moving along:

                  It has been brought to my attention by certain posters that we are no longer allowed to use "reason(s)" and logic for that matter, because Reason(s) equal Excuses.

                  So no longer should we look into the history of the fighters; no longer shall we investigate why a fighter won or lost; no longer shall we "reason" what happened to the fighter(s) before, during, and after the match (for future fights).

                  If a Fighter Wins, it was because he was just the better Man. If he loses, he was just the weaker of the two.


                  So breaking down Joe Calzaghe and Manny Pac's resume based on this new revolutionary logic, here is how I came to the simple conclusion Joe is number One and not Manny Pac.

                  Joe "The Legend Killer" Calzaghe
                  won 46 (KO 32) + lost 0 (KO 0) + drawn= 0

                  Manny "Not Unbeatable" Pacquiao
                  won 48 (KO 36) + Lost 3 (KO 2) + drawn 2 = 53

                  So what strikes you as different between these two?
                  I'll give you a hint; it's in the red.

                  If you notice, the Red for Joe "The Legend Killer" Calzaghe has "0" losses and "0" draws.

                  Manny "Not Unbeatable" Pacquiao, if you notice in the red, has 3 losses and 2 draws.

                  So using the "no excuses" logic, I asked myself a simple question: Which Fighter would I want to be based on records? The answer, the guy that was undefeated of course...especially since the other fighter had been KTFO twice.

                  In addition, as I looked through their resume to see who they fought, but of course I didn't want to investigate the fights since that doesn't work in "no excuses," I found this:

                  Joe "The Legend Killer" Calzaghe:

                  Last three fights alone against the Legendary Roy "Mr. Unstoppable" Jones Jr; The Legendary Bernard "The Executioner" Hopkins; and Mikkel "Viking Warrior" Kessler {who was undefeated and held a title}. WOW, the nicknames alone are terrifying and should add points to Joe's resume.
                  Continuing on we have Jeff "Left-hook" Lacey, who was deemed the Tyson of the 168 pound division, who also held a title and was undefeated.
                  This was just in the last two years....AMAZING.

                  Let's go to COLOR="Magenta"]Manny "I've been KTFO 2 times" Pacquiao: [/COLOR]we'll only stick with the so called "legends."

                  Manny has some great wins over Oscar "I choke in my big fights" De La Hoya. Marco "Baby Face " Barrera; and Erik "Holocaust Survivor of 2006" Morales.

                  Well, that's about it.

                  So let's go to the losses:

                  WOW, hope I can read this long list ; oh, "0"

                  Manny "I will only fight you if you are weight-drain and shot" Pacquiao:
                  Hopefully this is a good one because I'm a big fan....OH ****: 3 losses.
                  Hopefully these guys are "legends"; it won't be so bad if they are Legends.

                  YES! I see one legend. Erik "I schooled Manny's ass even though I'm on Social Security" Morales. Loss count = 1

                  Moving on...and...???
                  Medgoen Singsurat.
                  How did Pac lose to him? Maybe it was poor judging; let me check.
                  Eh, just watched the fight...Manny was KTFO. Hopefully this guy was some type of legend because he certainly proved to be the better fighter.

                  Moving on...and...WTF?
                  Rustico "The Newspaper Boy" Torrecampo. EH....I'm going to have to check how he lost; maybe it was poor judging this time, really. Ah, ****: just watched the fight, not long at all...Manny was knocked out by this legend.


                  So, that's my results on this revolutionary thinking of "No Excuses."


                  Thank You for reading and most importantly; Thank You "Certain Posters" for bringing this to my attention.

                  totally disagree with you! why trying to make look LACY LIKE TYSON..? please man... but anyway... its all a matter of oppinions..

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                  • Alibata
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                    #39
                    manny " I will only fight you if you are weight drained" pacquiao? Erik "Holocaust" Morales? LOL. For someone who talks about no excuses, way to be sneaky about it. Tsk, tsk. I guess you just can't be great without a fair share of hate.

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                    • mellow_mood
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by bsrizpac
                      Excellent troll bait thread. Hilarious how many people think you are serious and this is a good argument for Joe. Awesome. Truly you have captured the essence of Horus.
                      ...................

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