Joe Calzaghe is #1 P4P and not Manny Pac; here is why?

[Fulcrum29]

as big a Calzaghe fan as i am, i can't place him above Pacquiao... Pac is just the better fighter of the two, it's pretty plain to see imo

also, every fight has it's own story and circumstances and losing doesn't mean anything in the long term if you bounce back from it succesfully... and don't lose too often of course

LMAO pac is the better fighter of the two are you on drugs pal?

[HappyBoxingFan]

I know Europe has great social programs... but do you guys really start getting Social Security at 29?

[cosmichorn]

I love the humour of the thread

some people are too ******ed to tell youre joking though

[delipooke]

Damn ****ing Calzaghe fans jumping on this thread like its the next big thing. Some of them are just too ******ed to analyze what's going on with what Benny had written.

[johnm is...]

LOL. This is fantastic.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

i thought Joe retired?

[DuttyAlacrity]

NO EXCUSES:

A little history about myself

Since I was a boy I had this "something" inside me to ask "why?"
This "Why" curiosity led me to great discoveries in my life. For example: Why do "charlie horses" hurt so damn much? Why does watermelon make you piss through your ass? Why does Vodka and ******* go so well together in the morning?
Great questions like that have baffled me and historians.

Moving along:

It has been brought to my attention by certain posters that we are no longer allowed to use "reason(s)" and logic for that matter, because Reason(s) equal Excuses.

So no longer should we look into the history of the fighters; no longer shall we investigate why a fighter won or lost; no longer shall we "reason" what happened to the fighter(s) before, during, and after the match (for future fights).

If a Fighter Wins, it was because he was just the better Man. If he loses, he was just the weaker of the two.


So breaking down Joe Calzaghe and Manny Pac's resume based on this new revolutionary logic, here is how I came to the simple conclusion Joe is number One and not Manny Pac.

Joe "The Legend Killer" Calzaghe
won 46 (KO 32) + lost 0 (KO 0) + drawn= 0

Manny "Not Unbeatable" Pacquiao
won 48 (KO 36) + Lost 3 (KO 2) + drawn 2 = 53

So what strikes you as different between these two?
I'll give you a hint; it's in the red.

If you notice, the Red for Joe "The Legend Killer" Calzaghe has "0" losses and "0" draws.

Manny "Not Unbeatable" Pacquiao, if you notice in the red, has 3 losses and 2 draws.

So using the "no excuses" logic, I asked myself a simple question: Which Fighter would I want to be based on records? The answer, the guy that was undefeated of course...especially since the other fighter had been KTFO twice.

In addition, as I looked through their resume to see who they fought, but of course I didn't want to investigate the fights since that doesn't work in "no excuses," I found this:

Joe "The Legend Killer" Calzaghe:

Last three fights alone against the Legendary Roy "Mr. Unstoppable" Jones Jr; The Legendary Bernard "The Executioner" Hopkins; and Mikkel "Viking Warrior" Kessler {who was undefeated and held a title}. WOW, the nicknames alone are terrifying and should add points to Joe's resume.
Continuing on we have Jeff "Left-hook" Lacey, who was deemed the Tyson of the 168 pound division, who also held a title and was undefeated.
This was just in the last two years....AMAZING.

Let's go to COLOR="Magenta"]Manny "I've been KTFO 2 times" Pacquiao: [/COLOR]we'll only stick with the so called "legends."

Manny has some great wins over Oscar "I choke in my big fights" De La Hoya. Marco "Baby Face " Barrera; and Erik "Holocaust Survivor of 2006" Morales.

Well, that's about it.

So let's go to the losses:

WOW, hope I can read this long list ; oh, "0"

Manny "I will only fight you if you are weight-drain and shot" Pacquiao:
Hopefully this is a good one because I'm a big fan....OH ****: 3 losses.
Hopefully these guys are "legends"; it won't be so bad if they are Legends.

YES! I see one legend. Erik "I schooled Manny's ass even though I'm on Social Security" Morales. Loss count = 1

Moving on...and...???
Medgoen Singsurat.
How did Pac lose to him? Maybe it was poor judging; let me check.
Eh, just watched the fight...Manny was KTFO. Hopefully this guy was some type of legend because he certainly proved to be the better fighter.

Moving on...and...WTF?
Rustico "The Newspaper Boy" Torrecampo. EH....I'm going to have to check how he lost; maybe it was poor judging this time, really. Ah, ****: just watched the fight, not long at all...Manny was knocked out by this legend.


So, that's my results on this revolutionary thinking of "No Excuses."


Thank You for reading and most importantly; Thank You "Certain Posters" for bringing this to my attention.

........

[Slotff]

Pound for Pound means the best fighter regardless of weight.

Pacquiao has beaten the best fighters from 106-147

Calzaghe has beaten most of the good fighters from 168-175

Try again.

[Wales08]

Intresting thread minus the young ones who throw insults in.

Joe and Pac are good and proved it well. At this moment in time i would have Joe and Pac joint p4p. Calzaghe overall is better then Pac i can safely say and thread starter backed this up so no need for me to repeat.

One thing though is respect when its due.

[FasTHarD]

NO EXCUSES:

A little history about myself

Since I was a boy I had this "something" inside me to ask "why?"
This "Why" curiosity led me to great discoveries in my life. For example: Why do "charlie horses" hurt so damn much? Why does watermelon make you piss through your ass? Why does Vodka and ******* go so well together in the morning?
Great questions like that have baffled me and historians.

Moving along:

It has been brought to my attention by certain posters that we are no longer allowed to use "reason(s)" and logic for that matter, because Reason(s) equal Excuses.

So no longer should we look into the history of the fighters; no longer shall we investigate why a fighter won or lost; no longer shall we "reason" what happened to the fighter(s) before, during, and after the match (for future fights).

If a Fighter Wins, it was because he was just the better Man. If he loses, he was just the weaker of the two.


So breaking down Joe Calzaghe and Manny Pac's resume based on this new revolutionary logic, here is how I came to the simple conclusion Joe is number One and not Manny Pac.

Joe "The Legend Killer" Calzaghe
won 46 (KO 32) + lost 0 (KO 0) + drawn= 0

Manny "Not Unbeatable" Pacquiao
won 48 (KO 36) + Lost 3 (KO 2) + drawn 2 = 53

So what strikes you as different between these two?
I'll give you a hint; it's in the red.

If you notice, the Red for Joe "The Legend Killer" Calzaghe has "0" losses and "0" draws.

Manny "Not Unbeatable" Pacquiao, if you notice in the red, has 3 losses and 2 draws.

So using the "no excuses" logic, I asked myself a simple question: Which Fighter would I want to be based on records? The answer, the guy that was undefeated of course...especially since the other fighter had been KTFO twice.

In addition, as I looked through their resume to see who they fought, but of course I didn't want to investigate the fights since that doesn't work in "no excuses," I found this:

Joe "The Legend Killer" Calzaghe:

Last three fights alone against the Legendary Roy "Mr. Unstoppable" Jones Jr; The Legendary Bernard "The Executioner" Hopkins; and Mikkel "Viking Warrior" Kessler {who was undefeated and held a title}. WOW, the nicknames alone are terrifying and should add points to Joe's resume.
Continuing on we have Jeff "Left-hook" Lacey, who was deemed the Tyson of the 168 pound division, who also held a title and was undefeated.
This was just in the last two years....AMAZING.

Let's go to COLOR="Magenta"]Manny "I've been KTFO 2 times" Pacquiao: [/COLOR]we'll only stick with the so called "legends."

Manny has some great wins over Oscar "I choke in my big fights" De La Hoya. Marco "Baby Face " Barrera; and Erik "Holocaust Survivor of 2006" Morales.

Well, that's about it.

So let's go to the losses:

WOW, hope I can read this long list ; oh, "0"

Manny "I will only fight you if you are weight-drain and shot" Pacquiao:
Hopefully this is a good one because I'm a big fan....OH ****: 3 losses.
Hopefully these guys are "legends"; it won't be so bad if they are Legends.

YES! I see one legend. Erik "I schooled Manny's ass even though I'm on Social Security" Morales. Loss count = 1

Moving on...and...???
Medgoen Singsurat.
How did Pac lose to him? Maybe it was poor judging; let me check.
Eh, just watched the fight...Manny was KTFO. Hopefully this guy was some type of legend because he certainly proved to be the better fighter.

Moving on...and...WTF?
Rustico "The Newspaper Boy" Torrecampo. EH....I'm going to have to check how he lost; maybe it was poor judging this time, really. Ah, ****: just watched the fight, not long at all...Manny was knocked out by this legend.


So, that's my results on this revolutionary thinking of "No Excuses."


Thank You for reading and most importantly; Thank You "Certain Posters" for bringing this to my attention.

Your logic sucks bigtime...