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  • hookoutofhell
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    #11
    Originally posted by sylvestersweet
    Librado Andrade
    Anthony Mundine
    Markus Beyer
    Manny Siaca
    Eric Lucas
    He doesn't have the best resume but he's got enough credible wins to be respected.
    throw in the fact that hes beaten that level of opposition pretty soundly and that hes not been afraid to travel to their own home countries as well and suddenly it starts to look even better.

    personally i think if you were to completely ignore the fighters resume and break down his attributes - his speed, power, strength, chin, stamina, size and skill set then you are looking at a fighter who belongs in the top 10 p4p. theres no doubt in my mind that its just a matter of time, alot of top boxing writers have had him on the periphery of the top 10 p4p for a few years now. the only thing he needs to do now is show that he does belong in high company, to do that he needs the taylor fight.

    hope it comes sooner rather than later, hes a great fighter someone who would really make it big in the US. hes a fantastic boxer puncher, clinches very rarely, is exciting, good looking and respectful of the opposition.

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    • KESSLER
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      #12
      Originally posted by F•R•K•O
      He doesn't get enough credit.

      I said this before, but often the fighter is better than the resume suggests. Personally, I think we are looking at a great fighter in Mikkel Kessler.

      Give the guy a chance. He is trying to make big fights and barely anyone wants to know. Mikkel doesn't deserve disrespect.
      Another good post.

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      • askoe
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        #13
        He lost 7-8 rounds against Calzaghe, and Mundine snatced a few rounds too, Andrade took 1-2 rounds. Besides that I don't think he has lost any rounds in all his fights!

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          #14
          Originally posted by askoe
          He lost 7-8 rounds against Calzaghe, and Mundine snatced a few rounds too, Andrade took 1-2 rounds. Besides that I don't think he has lost any rounds in all his fights!
          Are you crazy?

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            #15
            Originally posted by KESSLER
            Are you crazy?
            Ok maybe he has lost a few more

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              #16
              Originally posted by askoe
              He lost 7-8 rounds against Calzaghe
              Very few people win more rounds than Kessler did against Calzaghe without cheating. Kessler, even with an injured hand, gave Calzaghe one of his best fights to date and kept it competitive throughout. To me, that means he deserves to be up there as being very close to the #1 SMW spot, if not at the very top. Would Froch fare as well against Calzaghe? No way. Taylor? He would get slaughtered, I have no doubt. Andrade? Ya gotta be kidding. And on, and on...

              Mikkel Kessler kicks ass. No doubt about it. On top of that, he's a genuinely good guy and once again, does not deserve any kind of disrespect.

              sitai: You say "he hasn't done enough for people to rate him that highly period", but how the hell is he supposed to prove himself when half the fighters out there are too chicken to give him a shot? Sometimes you just know that you are looking at a guy with pure class, regardless of who he is in the ring with, and how he beat his opponents becomes a factor.

              It's a damn shame when people are reluctant to even give him a chance. This kind of snobbery in boxing is not a good thing. Like I said, Mikkel is trying to set up big fights so he can prove himself to us all that he deserves to be up there with the best.



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                #17
                Originally posted by F•R•K•O
                Very few people win more rounds than Kessler did against Calzaghe without cheating.
                About three? I think even Jones and Bika both won 3 rounds minimum. I also like how you refer boxing brilliance( by Hopkins) as ''cheating''. Kessler fought a great fight though, but its nothing to brag over. He was dominated.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
                  About three? I think even Jones and Bika both won 3 rounds minimum. I also like how you refer boxing brilliance( by Hopkins) as ''cheating''. Kessler fought a great fight though, but its nothing to brag over. He was dominated.
                  Personally I had him winning 5 rounds, but I'm danish. The 3 judges actually had him winning 7 different rounds between them.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
                    About three? I think even Jones and Bika both won 3 rounds minimum. I also like how you refer boxing brilliance( by Hopkins) as ''cheating''. Kessler fought a great fight though, but its nothing to brag over. He was dominated.
                    Injured Kessler kept it COMPETITIVE. That's my main point. Don't you see a good fighter there? It's called 'the ability to spot talent'.

                    Jones won 1 round. At the very most he won 2. He was obliterated for at least 10 or 11. Watch the fight again if you think he won more than that. If you gave Jones 3 or more, you obviously hate Calzaghe and don't score fights fairly because of it. I had it 11 rounds to 1.

                    Bika was one of the dirtiest fighters Calzaghe has fought. He pulled every trick in the book and had nothing to lose, and nothing to offer Joe. Those fights are the riskiest. Despite cheating, he lost a hugely lop-sided decision.

                    Hopkins had single right hand shots, 163 clinches, and lots of headbutts. If that's "boxing brilliance" to you, then you ought to be calling Joe Calzaghe a genius. Against Calzaghe, Hopkins looked like ****. Against Hopkins, Calzaghe looked like ****. It's their styles. They will never gel or look pretty, no matter how many times they fight. Their styles cancel each other out.

                    Robin Reid won about 5 rounds, but Joe was injured pretty badly in that fight and apparently recovering from food poisoning. Again though, Reid was reduced to a one-punch wonder, like Hopkins. Lacy destroyed Reid later on. So did Froch. If Reid fought Calzaghe at 100% he would probably not win a round.

                    Lacy didn't win a round.

                    Charles Brewer was quite competitive, him and Joe threw bombs at each other for 12 rounds straight, but it was still a lop-sided decision for Calzaghe.

                    I could go on. Buit back to Kessler. He looked good, didn't cheat even once, only clinched 3 times, and his boxing is beautifully clean.

                    Mikkel is a great boxer.



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                      #20
                      Originally posted by F•R•K•O
                      Injured Kessler kept it COMPETITIVE. That's my main point. Don't you see a good fighter there? It's called 'the ability to spot talent'.

                      Jones won 1 round. At the very most he won 2. He was obliterated for at least 10 or 11. Watch the fight again if you think he won more than that. If you gave Jones 3 or more, you obviously hate Calzaghe and don't score fights fairly because of it. I had it 11 rounds to 1.

                      Bika was one of the dirtiest fighters Calzaghe has fought. He pulled every trick in the book and had nothing to lose, and nothing to offer Joe. Those fights are the riskiest. Despite cheating, he lost a hugely lop-sided decision.

                      Hopkins had single right hand shots, 163 clinches, and lots of headbutts. If that's "boxing brilliance" to you, then you ought to be calling Joe Calzaghe a genius. Against Calzaghe, Hopkins looked like ****. Against Hopkins, Calzaghe looked like ****. It's their styles. They will never gel or look pretty, no matter how many times they fight. Their styles cancel each other out.

                      Robin Reid won about 5 rounds, but Joe was injured pretty badly in that fight and apparently recovering from food poisoning. Again though, Reid was reduced to a one-punch wonder, like Hopkins. Lacy destroyed Reid later on. So did Froch. If Reid fought Calzaghe at 100% he would probably not win a round.

                      Lacy didn't win a round.

                      Charles Brewer was quite competitive, him and Joe threw bombs at each other for 12 rounds straight, but it was still a lop-sided decision for Calzaghe.

                      I could go on. Buit back to Kessler. He looked good, didn't cheat even once, only clinched 3 times, and his boxing is beautifully clean.

                      Mikkel is a great boxer.
                      Of course hes a great boxer and hes one of my favorites, although i do believe the injury thing is just an excuse from his fans to why he lost. Just like when Dawson beat Adamek and he was all of a sudden ''weight'' drained even when before the fight, he stated that he felt great. *********.com is my number one source for boxing news, and i do not remember seeing any article about Kessler being injured. Think about it, why did he suffer his first injury in the biggest fight of his life and why didn't he postpone?

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