Kessler's US dreams down for the count!

[S.G.]

But who is established enough then?

I think that if Hopkins KO's Kessler there's a good chance (perhaps the ONLY chance) that Calzaghe will fight him again and consider it a challenge. Challenges is what Joe feeds off.

that's the thing... i don't think there is a good enough fight for him right now apart from a Calzaghe rematch

hmm... i don't think so. the fact that Hopkins pushed Calzaghe to his limits and arguably beat him when they last fought, and then absolutely destroyed the man Calzaghe was supposedly "ducking" is surely enough to warrant his status as a challenge and worthy of a rematch if Joe was gonna give one

end of the day, i don't think Hopkins gains enough from a Kessler bout to waste one of his last ever fights on him

[ИATAS]

There is nobody else Hopkins can fight who is better than Kessler. Dawson is probably the only one and he is unavailable until at least next summer. The rematch with Calzaghe is a non-starter, nobody wants to see that fight again and Hopkins has less chance than he did first time round.

I don't think kessler motivates hopkins enough at this point (hops will be 44 in jan) and hopkins needs that extra motivation to fight, like he had against pavlik.

A fight with kessler while on paper might be the best available fight, where is the motivation? Kessler is a no name in the states and lost to calzaghe and hopkins has already cemented his legacy and has nothing more to prove.

If anything I think he will either retire, or do something absolutely crazy or unthinkable, like go up in weight to cruiser or even heavyweight. Like I said he needs motivation and he loves when people say he cannot do something.

[Grand Champ]

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[Enemy/Friend]

I don't think kessler motivates hopkins enough at this point (hops will be 44 in jan) and hopkins needs that extra motivation to fight, like he had against pavlik.

A fight with kessler while on paper might be the best available fight, where is the motivation? Kessler is a no name in the states and lost to calzaghe and hopkins has already cemented his legacy and has nothing more to prove.

If anything I think he will either retire, or do something absolutely crazy or unthinkable, like go up in weight to cruiser or even heavyweight. Like I said he needs motivation and he loves when people say he cannot do something.

What people seem to not grasp is the fact that both Kessler and Hopkins lost to Calzaghe and if Hop wants a rematch with Cal,knocking out the Dane would be the best route.

[BattlingNelson]

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Thanks, but what post was that?

[warp1432]

Who else is Hopkins going to fight?

Why would Hopkins take Calzaghe's left overs? No offense, but it's not like Kessler is the big recognized champion like Pavlik was. Not to mention Calzaghe already made Kessler look pretty basic. It's not worth the time for Hopkins.

"Well warp, there's been talks of Adamek. Why would he want Dawson's left overs?"

Well Adamek is recognized as the cruiser champion and obviously the bigger man. I'm not interested and it's not that good of a match up, but I think it's better then a Kessler fight. Kessler has done NOTHING besides getting a belt against some nobody.

I hope Hopkins fights Dawson

[ИATAS]

What people seem to not grasp is the fact that both Kessler and Hopkins lost to Calzaghe and if Hop wants a rematch with Cal,knocking out the Dane would be the best route.

there is no guarantee that calzaghe will give hopkins a rematch if he beats kessler, in fact calzaghe never made any hints that he would.

Besides hopkins needs a fight now, he said that he has one more fight left and it has to be soon, he cant wait a year or more, **** he turns 44 in a few weeks.

[S.G.]

What people seem to not grasp is the fact that both Kessler and Hopkins lost to Calzaghe and if Hop wants a rematch with Cal,knocking out the Dane would be the best route.

was beating Pavlik not a more note-worthy win? the guy everyone was calling for Calzaghe to fight, saying Calzaghe was ducking... instead of beating Calzaghe's left-overs (an easily dismissed victory) he beat the guy Calzaghe should have been fighting

the Pavlik win and closeness of the first fight were enough to secure a rematch, and the fact that Calzaghe wouldn't give one after that shows that he isn't gonna give B-Hop one whatever happens

[BattlingNelson]

Why would Hopkins take Calzaghe's left overs? No offense, but it's not like Kessler is the big recognized champion like Pavlik was. Not to mention Calzaghe already made Kessler look pretty basic. It's not worth the time for Hopkins.

"Well warp, there's been talks of Adamek. Why would he want Dawson's left overs?"

Well Adamek is recognized as the cruiser champion and obviously the bigger man. I'm not interested and it's not that good of a match up, but I think it's better then a Kessler fight. Kessler has done NOTHING besides getting a belt against some nobody.

I hope Hopkins fights Dawson

I might be a minority here but I hope Hopkins retires. That would be great to retire following careerperformance he had against Pavlik.

[Enemy/Friend]

there is no guarantee that calzaghe will give hopkins a rematch if he beats kessler, in fact calzaghe never made any hints that he would.

Don't you think that would add pressure for a rematch,beating one of Calzaghe's best wins more convincingly than he did?