Which Fab 4 opponent gives Floyd the toughest time?

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  • lefthook2daliva
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    #41
    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
    what?

    i think all 4 beats him and soundly.

    no point in going into specifics really.

    hearns was too tall and powerful.

    hagler is too big and powerful.

    leonard was bigger , had a chin floyd couldn't hurt and just as skilled.

    duran and floyd are the closest in size but floyd's toughest fight to date was castillo. there is no boxing skill or attribute category that i can think of where castillo had even a slight edge on roberto.

    floyd gets ktfo by all 4.

    Pretty much what he said ^

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    • Burner
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      #42
      I like how you guys just discredit Floyd and say all 4 beat him soundly...those 4 wouldnt even tell you that.

      I think Floyd would beat Tommy Hearns..his chin was too glassy....Floyd would catch him...Tommys right hand would never land..Floyd dances to a UD.

      Duran gets boxed silly.

      Hagler is too big Floyd loses at 160.....Wait ..Floyd never fought at 160 but anywho.

      SRL gets outclassed and outpointed everything SRL did..Floyd does better...and the defense is not even close..Floyd wins this in a close fight.


      Hagler beats him...Floyd beats the rest.

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      • JAB5239
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        #43
        Originally posted by Burner
        I like how you guys just discredit Floyd and say all 4 beat him soundly...those 4 wouldnt even tell you that.

        I think Floyd would beat Tommy Hearns..his chin was too glassy....Floyd would catch him...Tommys right hand would never land..Floyd dances to a UD.
        Floyd couldn't put Judah away. How is he gonna hurt the bigger, stonger, better Hearns? Tommy would have him on the ropes, Floyd would be trying to pot shot him while he kept teeing off. Hearns by a wide decision or late stoppage.
        Duran gets boxed silly.
        And just how did you come to this conclussion? At his best, Durans defense is excellent and his offense is 5x better than Floyds. Duran, UD.

        Hagler is too big Floyd loses at 160.....Wait ..Floyd never fought at 160 but anywho.
        Ok.

        SRL gets outclassed and outpointed everything SRL did..Floyd does better...and the defense is not even close..Floyd wins this in a close fight.
        Leonard is bigger, faster, stronger, meaner, a better offensive fighter and underrated defensively. Ray had problems with taller fighters. If he could put the leather to Benitez the way he did, he could do it to Floyd. Leonard, UD.
        Hagler beats him...Floyd beats the rest.

        Its sickening the nuthuggery Mayweather gets. He hasn't even faced todays best welters, yet many have him beating some of the greatest and most accomplished fighters in history. Floyd is a wonderful fighter, but please.......get real!
        Last edited by JAB5239; 12-19-2008, 04:29 AM.

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        • KostyaTszyu44
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          #44
          Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
          what?

          i think all 4 beats him and soundly.

          no point in going into specifics really.

          hearns was too tall and powerful.

          hagler is too big and powerful.


          leonard was bigger , had a chin floyd couldn't hurt and just as skilled.

          duran and floyd are the closest in size but floyd's toughest fight to date was castillo. there is no boxing skill or attribute category that i can think of where castillo had even a slight edge on roberto.

          floyd gets ktfo by all 4.
          too tall and powerful isnt a reason why they would win

          id say duran outhustles him to a close decision at 135, could even be a draw or go either way though...mainly because at 135 floyd was pretty much prime and he would have given duran a great fight

          leonard decisions him-very close though, i could see floyd maybe winning this fight but id say leonard probably beats him

          actually on second thought i think floyds movement would give hearns real issues, floyd has a good chance here

          hagler decisions him- floyds defence would help him last the distance and his speed would occasionally puzzle marvin but hagler was skilled also and would get the wide points win

          id say hagler is the only one he loses to for sure, he has a good chance with all the others

          its clsoe though, he could just as easily win 3/4 as he could lose all 4



          but really floyd was prime at 130/135, it aint really fair comparing him to a MW the class of marvin hagler, a weight he never even fought at or planned to fight at...theres too many questions like would floyd carry speed up, etc to justify a prediction of him winning vs hagler
          Last edited by KostyaTszyu44; 12-19-2008, 05:26 AM.

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          • Hagler★
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            #45
            Originally posted by DWiens421
            Duran - 135
            Leonard - 147
            Hearns - 154
            Hagler - 160

            I'll say Hearns surprisingly... he was one of the worst of the fab 4 (which is still better than almost anyone to ever fight), but his jab, power and reach would just give Mayweather fits IMO.

            Hagler a close second because of size alone. Leonard 3rd and Duran 4th, also because of their size.

            Thoughts?
            dont be fooled by his resume i have heard a few people say if he had legs/ and or balance he would have been the best of the lot.
            My pick would naturally be Hagler, at 160 to big for Mayweather, too powerful

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              #46
              Originally posted by *Hagler*
              dont be fooled by his resume i have heard a few people say if he had legs/ and or balance he would have been the best of the lot.
              My pick would naturally be Hagler, at 160 to big for Mayweather, too powerful
              Tommy Hearns with a chin likely would have never lost.

              But, he didn't have one, which was enough to separate the other three from him.

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              • TheGreatA
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                #47
                I don't think Hearns' chin would be an issue against Mayweather.

                He didn't really have a "glass" jaw anyway. In the Leonard fight he was tired and didn't know how to tie up, in the Hagler fight he was overpowered in a brawl (he took a lot of punishment before going down), against Barkley he got caught by a bigger, stronger fighter.

                The way Hearns fought Wilfred Benitez is the way to beat Floyd Mayweather.


                Leonard vs Floyd Sr
                Last edited by TheGreatA; 12-19-2008, 06:56 AM.

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                • Ryn0
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                  #48
                  Hearns KO's him IMO, all the others beat him by UD. So Hearns

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                  • S.G.
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                    #49
                    i think Leonard... he can do everything Floyd can, but better

                    i think Floyd could maybe sc**** a win against Hearns and/or Duran... i have em down as close fights, with Duran and Hearns slight favourites

                    and Hagler is too big

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                    • BennyST
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                      i think all 4 beats floyd tbh.
                      I can't be bothered going into explanations right now as I'm having trouble hitting the keys, but, I agree.

                      Each guy would beat him and reasonably convincingly so. Duran the least convincingly because that was Mayweather's best weight of course, but no one that stood in front of Duran could win, and especially no one that liked to lay on the ropes as much as Mayweather did, so, in a funny way that makes it the most convincing win in fact (May being at his prime weight).
                      Last edited by BennyST; 12-19-2008, 10:42 AM.

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