Guys that Would beat Bruce Lee in a fight:

[bsrizpac]

Well, let's be realistic here, IDK anything in detail about Bruce Lee, but, if what you say is true, then giving trouble to professionals, even in sparring means you can fight. Sparring is not easy man, you get hit there too, you get cut, you get hurt.

I am aware. I have sparred.

I'm not saying Bruce was not athletic, nor am I saying he did not know a lot about fighting and martial arts concepts. He was a very smart guy who knew a lot and was progressive thinking.

Unfortunately a lot of fanboys have corrupted his memory.

[chilost]

I dont Chuck Norris would've done **** to Bruce Lee. Lee was gifted martial artist that even when he was making his movies they had to hire real martial artist like Chuck Norris cause the Actors used to say that Bruce lee would hit the extremely hard and they couldn't handle it. Also there was a old Interview I saw with Chuck norris and he talked about making the movie "Return of the Dragon" and stated the him & Bruce got it a real fight after they had sparred for lil bit and Chuck honestly amid that he tried to give Bruce a Ass whoopin but it was Bruce who got him.

[The Scientist]

lol. Bruce Lee was a hypejob.

NSB has hit an all time low.

and your accomplishments in life are as relevant?

It's healthy to have a sense of skepticism, but hardcore skeptics always make me grin. Bruce Lee was never a career fighter because the opportunity to become an actor came his way in a time when money was not an available resource for him. He had a baby on the way and it's really a no brainer on what career choice you would take considering the circumstances, especially in that era.

As far as I know there are no available video's of him documenting his street fights, but how can anyone say they didn't happen? I'm gonna flip that same logic at you naysayers, what concrete proof do you have that those fights never took place? You can't prove that they never happened either as you weren't there.

You see, it works both ways. Not going to go on a crusade to try and convert people here as I'm not a over zealous fanboy, but just because he didn't choose the fight game as his career doesn't mean he would have no chance against a Boxer of all the disciplines of fighting. Boxing is only a fraction of what fighting is as a whole.

Bottom line, Bruce Lee isn't invincible and suggesting he could possibly defeat an elite Boxer doesn't suggest that either so all you Dragon haters need to chill out and listen to some Kenny G.

Actual Career fighters like Chuck Norris giving him respect speaks volumes. So just remember believing is not always seeing.

[bsrizpac]

I dont Chuck Norris would've done **** to Bruce Lee. Lee was gifted martial artist that even when he was making his movies they had to hire real martial artist like Chuck Norris cause the Actors used to say that Bruce lee would hit the extremely hard and they couldn't handle it. Also there was a old Interview I saw with Chuck norris and he talked about making the movie "Return of the Dragon" and stated the him & Bruce got it a real fight after they had sparred for lil bit and Chuck honestly amid that he tried to give Bruce a Ass whoopin but it was Bruce who got him.

You are aware that Chuck was a decorate multi time champion right?

And that Bruce Lee never stepped up and fought anyone?

I'm not saying Bruce couldn't win, but have you seen the size difference? Anything is possible but all logic points out in a real fight, Chuck takes it.

No hero worship, just a fact.

[bsrizpac]

and your accomplishments in life are as relevant?

It's healthy to have a sense of skepticism, but hardcore skeptics always make me grin. Bruce Lee was never a career fighter because the opportunity to become an actor came his way in a time when money was not an available resource for him. He had a baby on the way and it's really a no brainer on what career choice you would take considering the circumstances, especially in that era.

As far as I know there are no available video's of him documenting his street fights, but how can anyone say they didn't happen? I'm gonna flip that same logic at you naysayers, what concrete proof do you have that those fights never took place? You can't prove that they never happened either as you weren't there.

You see, it works both ways. Not going to go on a crusade to try and convert people here as I'm not a over zealous fanboy, but just because he didn't choose the fight game as his career doesn't mean he would have no chance against a Boxer of all the disciplines of fighting. Boxing is only a fraction of what fighting is as a whole.

Bottom line, Bruce Lee isn't invincible and suggesting he could possibly defeat an elite Boxer doesn't suggest that either so all you Dragon haters need to chill out and listen to some Kenny G.

Actual Career fighters like Chuck Norris giving him respect speaks volumes. So just remember believing is not always seeing.

Here's a thought: Bruce came from a martial art called Wing Chun. Wing Chun was not a fighting art.

He took things from many other arts to create his martial art philosophy. But in the end, he never fought. Just mythical legends. I'm not saying that they guy might not have been great, but he never proved it.

You present a BAD logical fallacy: The burden of proof is on those that make the outlandish claim.

[djsygo]

Who cares who could beat bruce lee in the ring? He didnt care. He wasnt studying matial arts to fight in a ring, but to know the art deeply. Fighting wise, his art was about stopping an aggression in the fastest way possible. Using all you could use, no rules, getting there fast and deadly. Not about squaring 1 in front of the others from far with hands up until someone rings the bell.

Aggressions usually come from very short distance and are unexpected. So the first attribute you train is awarness of what happens around you..always be ready. His JKD derives strongly from wing chun who is all about closing the distance on an aggression, control arms or legs if they are stopping you from getting to the target, then get there fast and deadly. It uses speed, reflexes, sensitivity, and most of all, surprise. Its really not suited for combat sports, its a whole different scenario there.

anyway i could go on and on but bottom line is, he didnt care to fight in the ring, he didnt care about the sport side of fighting, but strangely there always will be ppl who will come up and say...oh he would be beaten by Tyson and so and so. He wasnt in martial arts to fight Tyson, so why do you care so much about that?

sorry for quoting myself but id like your opinion, bsrizpac

[chilost]

Bruce Lee wasnt soft homey. just cause he never took on anyone professionally doesnt mean that Bruce cant **** them up. I can image bruce lee doing the sidekick that he did on that Skinny dude with the blue shirt in Return of the Dragon, to Calslappy and sending him flyin cross the room. lol.

Bruce was very strong for his figure.

I bet he would've **** up some of the professionals real bad. Bruce was also a great striker from the standing position.

[bsrizpac]

sorry for quoting myself but id like your opinion, bsrizpac

I agree with you to some extent.

I do think his goal was not to be a "fighter" which is why I find it oddly disgusting that his fans worship him as one.

Also I think he was more of a coach, and a philosopher. He was more interested in conceptual improvement.

I completely disagree with your analysis of wing chun and it's closing. First off it's a mostly close quarters style. Secondly it's primarily a display/show art, and not meant for actual combat or fighting.

True Lee took elements of it into his style and that's fine, but he actually learned how to close the distance from watching Fencers and their lunge step entry.

[bsrizpac]

Bruce Lee wasnt soft homey. just cause he never took on anyone professionally doesnt mean that Bruce cant **** them up. I can image bruce lee doing the sidekick that he did on that Skinny dude with the blue shirt in Return of the Dragon, to Calslappy and sending him flyin cross the room. lol.

Bruce was very strong for his figure.

I bet he would've **** up some of the professionals real bad. Bruce was also a great striker from the standing position.

135 pounds.

To start.

Secondly he never proved it on anyone.

Like he said "brick no hit back"

[djsygo]

I agree with you to some extent.

I do think his goal was not to be a "fighter" which is why I find it oddly disgusting that his fans worship him as one.

Also I think he was more of a coach, and a philosopher. He was more interested in conceptual improvement.

I completely disagree with your analysis of wing chun and it's closing. First off it's a mostly close quarters style. Secondly it's primarily a display/show art, and not meant for actual combat or fighting.

True Lee took elements of it into his style and that's fine, but he actually learned how to close the distance from watching Fencers and their lunge step entry.

his goal wasnt to be a 'prize fighter'...other than that, i believe you saw some bad wing chun...cant blame you good wing chun is not easily found and many ppl who practice it are sorry ass losers who go there only to 'believe' they can handle a danger situation, and that they wont need to learn their art by sparring and applying concept risking a black eye or blood from the nose. But theres other ppl who do it differently