POLL: Rate Joe Calzaghe's Resume (1-10)

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  • Dynamite Kid
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    #11
    Originally posted by Ian_ST24i
    His best win was against Lacy. He mentally and physically owned Lacy, and Lacy's never been the same since.

    He couldn't get up for Hopkins, and took the piss out of RJJ. Kessler was his toughest fight. Kessler's a great fighter. I hope he goes on to unify SM.


    Kessler is not a GREAT fighter

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    • The Hammer
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      #12
      It looks like a "ten" to me!

      He's 46-0, ten years of successful title defenses, Ring Champion in two weght divisions, defeated all-time greats, beaten at least eight world champions, and won all the titles at super middleweight!

      According to the IBO, he has 25 wins over "top 50" ranked opponents:



      That's the same number as Hopkins, except he doesn't have Hopkins 4 losses and a draw.

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      • Ian_ST24i
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        #13
        I didn't mean great as an 'ATG' but by today's standards he is. Who could beat him today at SM? Froch would have a slight chance. Taylor wouldn't.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Ian_ST24i
          I didn't mean great as an 'ATG' but by today's standards. Who could beat him today at SM? Froch would have a slight chance. Taylor wouldn't.
          That aint because he is so good, its because the division is filled with guys who are on the same level. Majority of the SMW look like B Class fighters and the good prospects are not experienced enough to step up yet.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
            6/10.... The guy spent 10 years between big name fights.. and fought the big names at questionable times in their Careers.. His 2 best wins are Lacy and Kessler in the sense that they were Champs in thier primes
            It's not the way to look at it, especially with Lacy. Damn, Eubank ****s all over Lacy, he would have knocked him into the cheap seats.

            1997 Eubank = great win for a green JC.

            Prime Rob Reid was also better than some people give him credit for. Tough fight for for an injured Calzaghe.

            Even Richie Woodhall was a solid win. Most people won't pay much attention to that one though.

            Bika, as raw and lacking in finesse as he is, is a a major handful for any SMW, but Joe won a wide points decision and considering how dirty Bika fought, Joe did well.

            Kessler was a great win. I rate Kessler very highly and I think he'd give anyone at SMW or light heavy a run for their money, or beat most of them comfortably.

            Byron Mitchell -- heavy puncher. Good 2 round stoppage for Joe, even though I thought the stoppage came about 20 seconds too early.

            Brewer and Calzaghe threw bombs at each other all night. A tougher fight than some might think. Went the full 12 rounds, and is actually a pretty solid win.

            Hopkins going on to destroy Pavlik makes Joe's win look better, even thiough it's an awful fight.

            And Jones, even way past prime, still had enough in the tank to drop Joe early and was still throwing punches in the last round. I think Joe somewhat took his heart away after getting off the canvas. The fight was lost for Jones right there and then.

            There are a number of other, completely ignored wins, such as Eubank's cousin Bobbie Joe Edwards, a cruiserweight who Joe fought very early in his career.

            So overall, not a bad resume, just not spectacular. 7.5/10 is a fair score. Some people are obviously gonna score it very low because they don't like Joe, so this poll probably isn't very accurate. They should try to score it honestly, but that won't happen, partly because they hate him, and partly because their knowledge of the people he fought is limited.



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            Last edited by S A M U R A I; 12-14-2008, 02:10 PM.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Ian_ST24i
              I didn't mean great as an 'ATG' but by today's standards he is. Who could beat him today at SM? Froch would have a slight chance. Taylor wouldn't.
              Froch will lose to Taylor

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                #17
                Originally posted by Ian_ST24i
                Kessler was his toughest fight.
                To this day, Joe STILL says Eubank was his toughest fight. I can believe that.



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                  #18
                  well when you say resume do you mean their willingness to face top compeition or are you talking about who they have beaten.

                  i'll assume its the former, imo if the likes of hopkins, RJJ and DLH are 8 then calzaghe has to be a 7.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by hookoutofhell
                    well when you say resume do you mean their willingness to face top compeition or are you talking about who they have beaten.

                    i'll assume its the former, imo if the likes of hopkins, RJJ and DLH are 8 then calzaghe has to be a 7.
                    Yes, resume refers to the fighters he has beaten.



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                    • lparm
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                      #20
                      I'd say it's a solid 8 on your scale. I would've liked to have seen him against a few other opponents Benn, Collins, Ottke for example. But at smw no one can question he was the one true champ and possibly the goat at that weight class.

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