Is JMM an ATG

[daggum]

amazing skill
but completely lackin in accimplishments

beating casamayor, barrera, and pacquiao is pretty lacking since those guys all suck. let me save you some time in your reply. pac beat marquez! pac was weight drained! marquez loves the canvas! marquez is gay! chris john beat him! feel free to add on.

[12boxin_C12]

Do you understand Boxing? Torrecampo and Singsurat happened 10 years ago at 108..

Chris John beat Marquez just few years ago ..

chris john didn't beat marquez. chris was given a hometown decision there's a diffence and if you've seen the you'd know.

[Clegg]

this is a prime example of a floyd hater...floyd wasnt even mentioned yet he downs floyd.

Kinda reminds me of this guy:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4452398&postcount=44

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4447530&postcount=8

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4459490&postcount=23

[crold1]

JMM is a great fighter, but ATG? Not yet...and he's probably running low on time. He just didn't get the fights he needed. He was a great measure for Pacquiao, and so will always be tied to history, but he wasn't history on his own.

[MakeDamnSure]

chris john didn't beat marquez. chris was given a hometown decision there's a diffence and if you've seen the you'd know.

I saw the fight.. John was countering the counter puncher.. Watch it on youtube.

[JOM'S]

JMM is a great fighter with multiple titles & championships at 126, 130 & 135, been a consistent member of top 10 P4P since 2004 and arguably No. 2 or No. 3 P4P currently...

IMHO he breaks Top 100 easily and he is in the verge or closing in on Erik and Marco...

here is 2007? ESPN List of Top 50 ATG...

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Joe Louis
5. Willie Pep
6. Roberto Duran
7. Benny Leonard
8. Jack Johnson
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Sam Langford
11. Joe Gans
12. Sugar Ray Leonard
13. Harry Greb
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Jimmy Wilde
16. Gene Tunney
17. Mickey Walker
19. Stanley Ketchel
20. George Foreman
21. Tony Canzoneri
22. Barney Ross
23. Jimmy McLarnin
24. Julio Cesar Chavez
25. Marcel Cerdan
26. Joe Frazier
27. Ezzard Charles
18. Archie Moore
28. Jake LaMotta
29. Sandy Saddler
30. Terry McGovern
31. Billy Conn
32. Jose Napoles
33. Ruben Olivares
34. Emile Griffith
35. Marvin Hagler
36. Eder Jofre
37. Thomas Hearns
38. Larry Holmes
39. Oscar De La Hoya
40. Evander Holyfield
41. Ted "Kid" Lewis
42. Alexis Arguello
43. Marco Antonio Barrera
44. Pernell Whitaker
45. Carlos Monzon
46. Roy Jones Jr.
47. Bernard Hopkins
48. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
49. Erik Morales
50. Mike Tyson

[them_apples]

JMM is a great fighter with multiple titles & championships at 126, 130 & 135, been a consistent member of top 10 P4P since 2004 and arguably No. 2 or No. 3 P4P currently...

IMHO he breaks Top 100 easily and he is in the verge or closing in on Erik and Marco...

here is 2007? ESPN List of Top 50 ATG...

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Joe Louis
5. Willie Pep
6. Roberto Duran
7. Benny Leonard
8. Jack Johnson
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Sam Langford
11. Joe Gans
12. Sugar Ray Leonard
13. Harry Greb
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Jimmy Wilde
16. Gene Tunney
17. Mickey Walker
19. Stanley Ketchel
20. George Foreman
21. Tony Canzoneri
22. Barney Ross
23. Jimmy McLarnin
24. Julio Cesar Chavez
25. Marcel Cerdan
26. Joe Frazier
27. Ezzard Charles
18. Archie Moore
28. Jake LaMotta
29. Sandy Saddler
30. Terry McGovern
31. Billy Conn
32. Jose Napoles
33. Ruben Olivares
34. Emile Griffith
35. Marvin Hagler
36. Eder Jofre
37. Thomas Hearns
38. Larry Holmes
39. Oscar De La Hoya
40. Evander Holyfield
41. Ted "Kid" Lewis
42. Alexis Arguello
43. Marco Antonio Barrera
44. Pernell Whitaker
45. Carlos Monzon
46. Roy Jones Jr.
47. Bernard Hopkins
48. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
49. Erik Morales
50. Mike Tyson

thats a pretty horrible list, the main criteria must be fighting before the 60's by the looks of it. I see a lot of great fighters on that list that are way to low.

Look how low Monzon is and Hopkins ffs.

[them_apples]

Kinda reminds me of this guy:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4452398&postcount=44

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4447530&postcount=8

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...0&postcount=23

Calzaghe is the Marciano of this generation, literally. Undefeated fighters are often cowards.

[crold1]

JMM is a great fighter with multiple titles & championships at 126, 130 & 135, been a consistent member of top 10 P4P since 2004 and arguably No. 2 or No. 3 P4P currently...

IMHO he breaks Top 100 easily and he is in the verge or closing in on Erik and Marco...

here is 2007? ESPN List of Top 50 ATG...

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Joe Louis
5. Willie Pep
6. Roberto Duran
7. Benny Leonard
8. Jack Johnson
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Sam Langford
11. Joe Gans
12. Sugar Ray Leonard
13. Harry Greb
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Jimmy Wilde
16. Gene Tunney
17. Mickey Walker
19. Stanley Ketchel
20. George Foreman
21. Tony Canzoneri
22. Barney Ross
23. Jimmy McLarnin
24. Julio Cesar Chavez
25. Marcel Cerdan
26. Joe Frazier
27. Ezzard Charles
18. Archie Moore
28. Jake LaMotta
29. Sandy Saddler
30. Terry McGovern
31. Billy Conn
32. Jose Napoles
33. Ruben Olivares
34. Emile Griffith
35. Marvin Hagler
36. Eder Jofre
37. Thomas Hearns
38. Larry Holmes
39. Oscar De La Hoya
40. Evander Holyfield
41. Ted "Kid" Lewis
42. Alexis Arguello
43. Marco Antonio Barrera
44. Pernell Whitaker
45. Carlos Monzon
46. Roy Jones Jr.
47. Bernard Hopkins
48. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
49. Erik Morales
50. Mike Tyson

This list factored in fame as a component. In-ring, Whitaker at 44 is absurd and behind Barerra, De La Hoya and LaMotta is kick in the nuts ******ed.

[JOM'S]

LoL on the ESPN list...

but back to JMM do you think he breaks on your list of Top 100?