Juan Diaz vs Juan Manuel Marquez

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  • Boxer1590
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    #41
    Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN
    What!? You serious?

    Look, Paq almost dropped Oscar at 147. Oscar. A guy who's only been stopped by a middleweight lol. Doesn't mean Paq can **** on every Welterweight fighter that ever lived.

    Now Marquez is my favorite fighter of all time, but be serious. Campbell blatantly his harder then Marquez at 135. No question Marquez is skilled and knows how to put his shots on a guy. But Katsidis also got to Joel's chin, and Katsidis couldn't even **** with Diaz. And the triangle effect works here, cause I'm talkin about strength, not skill.

    But Diaz is too fresh, too young, too durable. Marquez will either get walked down late and take a loss, or move his feet enough to get decisioned. Because unlike Joel, Diaz doesn't come forward with his hands down. Diaz throws up the optimus prime defense, and moves his feet. And I don't Marquez can break that shell.
    Serious as a heart attack.

    How can you judge Marquez power at 135? Especially judge it as bad? When hes only fought there once and won by KO against a guy whos never been stopped thats all im saying.

    Diaz doesnt come forward with his hands down, but you make it sound like Casamayor is a walking punching bag. Casamayor fought a very disciplined fight and was keeping good distance and launching counter left hands all night. He wasnt easy to get to, you make it sound like he just walked into Marquez shots. Diaz defense isnt all that great, hes right there to get hit. I think he will throw a lot and it will cause him to eat a lot of shots from Marquez. Diaz has never been in there with someone as seasoned as Marquez, and thats a fact. So to say he will walk Marquez down when hes never been in there with anyone as seasoned as Marquez doesnt make sense to me. Katsidis was considerd a big puncher at 135. He couldnt KO Casamayor. Marquez did. Does the triangle theory work here? I mean we are talking about strength not skill.

    As far as the Pacquiao coment you made....he never had Oscar really hurt from one punch. He just took the guys heart. He boxed well. Completely different than the Marquez-Casamayor where Marquez brutally put Casamayor on his back from right hands twice.

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    • 713832281
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      #42
      I feel the same way. I am fans of both, but I think JMM will pull out a decision.


      Originally posted by texanballer
      Very interesting fight. I wish they didnt have to fight each other. But that is how it goes.

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        #43
        Bumped for the morning posters

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          #44
          Originally posted by RTS
          WOW, very good matchup. Props to Marquez and Diaz for taking this fight as its very dangerous for both of them.

          Marquez showed he can pop at 135 by knocking out Casamayor impressively. Diaz has a hell of a workrate and a good jab. But Marquez just counters with such powerful shots and combos man I see Diaz being vulnerable to that. Im going to pick Marquez winning by stoppage. Thats what I see happening.

          cant wait for this fight, hope a deal is reached.
          good prediction sir.

          thanks



          and I got hate for saying Marquez could KO him.

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