Juan Diaz vs Juan Manuel Marquez

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  • Low Blow Armo
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    #31
    Marquez is way too seasoned for Diaz. Diaz has shown an inability to cope with a tactician like Campbell. Imagine what Marquez would do to him?

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    • Boxer1590
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      #32
      Originally posted by ferocity
      Juarez put up a hell of a fight in the later rounds and i thought he stunned Marquez a few times. And its because Rocky throws shots from the sides and Barerra and Pac throw them stright punchs that they were able to knock Marquez down - besides being more active. I think Rocky punchs just as hard if not harder then any of these guys.
      I strongly disagree, I didnt see Marquez stunned and I thought Marquez completely controlled that fight. I know your a big Juarez fan though (I remember betting you in both the Barrera fights lol and you had his highlights in your sig). So whatever, we both have our opinions and thats cool.

      and yes Juarez can deffinately punch very hard, the guys just doesnt let his shots off enough and he really hasnt seemed capable of fixing that problem.

      by the way, my amateur career has been going great
      Last edited by Boxer1590; 12-12-2008, 08:31 PM.

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      • MaYaN_SuN
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        #33
        Originally posted by Low Blow Armo
        Marquez is way too seasoned for Diaz. Diaz has shown an inability to cope with a tactician like Campbell. Imagine what Marquez would do to him?
        lol Campbell isn't a tactician and he used brute strength to pound Diaz out, not "tactics." Marquez doesn't have that kinda stiff power in his shots at lightweight.

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        • Boxer1590
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          #34
          Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN
          lol Campbell isn't a tactician and he used brute strength to pound Diaz out, not "tactics." Marquez doesn't have that kinda stiff power in his shots at lightweight.
          like that right hand that crumpled Casamayor. Marquez has only fought once at 135 and he stopped a guy whos never been stopped. I think he showed good power at 135. As far as brute strength maybe hes not as strong but I think he sure ca punch at 135, and probably betteer than Campbell.

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          • Picozo
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            #35
            Man, this is a tough one for me. I did pick Marquez by decision only because I say how much trouble Nate gave Dias. I think Marquez is just a mini version of Nate (style wise anyways). IMO!!

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            • KJB
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              #36
              Call me crazy, I am going with Diaz. I just have a feeling about this kid, he was a monster before Campbell but I believe he is only going to get better.

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              • MaYaN_SuN
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                #37
                Originally posted by RTS
                like that right hand that crumpled Casamayor. Marquez has only fought once at 135 and he stopped a guy whos never been stopped. I think he showed good power at 135. As far as brute strength maybe hes not as strong but I think he sure ca punch at 135, and probably betteer than Campbell.
                What!? You serious?

                Look, Paq almost dropped Oscar at 147. Oscar. A guy who's only been stopped by a middleweight lol. Doesn't mean Paq can **** on every Welterweight fighter that ever lived.

                Now Marquez is my favorite fighter of all time, but be serious. Campbell blatantly his harder then Marquez at 135. No question Marquez is skilled and knows how to put his shots on a guy. But Katsidis also got to Joel's chin, and Katsidis couldn't even **** with Diaz. And the triangle effect works here, cause I'm talkin about strength, not skill.

                But Diaz is too fresh, too young, too durable. Marquez will either get walked down late and take a loss, or move his feet enough to get decisioned. Because unlike Joel, Diaz doesn't come forward with his hands down. Diaz throws up the optimus prime defense, and moves his feet. And I don't Marquez can break that shell.

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                • Picozo
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by KJB
                  Call me crazy, I am going with Diaz. I just have a feeling about this kid, he was a monster before Campbell but I believe he is only going to get better.
                  I like him and have followed him since his name came up during the Olympics 5 years ago but man, this is a tough one to call especially after the Nate fight and JMM is non-stop and smarter (ringwise).

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                  • Texanballer
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN
                    What!? You serious?

                    Look, Paq almost dropped Oscar at 147. Oscar. A guy who's only been stopped by a middleweight lol. Doesn't mean Paq can **** on every Welterweight fighter that ever lived.

                    Now Marquez is my favorite fighter of all time, but be serious. Campbell blatantly his harder then Marquez at 135. No question Marquez is skilled and knows how to put his shots on a guy. But Katsidis also got to Joel's chin, and Katsidis couldn't even **** with Diaz. And the triangle effect works here, cause I'm talkin about strength, not skill.

                    But Diaz is too fresh, too young, too durable. Marquez will either get walked down late and take a loss, or move his feet enough to get decisioned. Because unlike Joel, Diaz doesn't come forward with his hands down. Diaz throws up the optimus prime defense, and moves his feet. And I don't Marquez can break that shell.
                    Perfectly said, took the words out of my mouth. And the punches he throws usually land. There arent any punches thrown just to be thrown, each one is meant to land. He was the 2nd most accurate puncher in boxing before the campbell fight i believe

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                    • BOLLOCKS
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                      #40
                      War diaz!!!!

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