Originally posted by PerryDplatypus
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Will Floyd get credit for Beating Pacquiao
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Marg, Cotto, and Clottey are, and if PBF comes back and don't fight any of those guys he'll still be flamed to hell.
and keep in mind duran never cleaned out 160so why is ther talk of cfloyd coming back to beat everyone at 147, he already beat the guys he needed to at his natural weight of 130.
are you saying pac is not great because he didn't clean out any division he has ever been in
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floyd SHOULD get credit but overall he wont..people want floyd to lose so badly that even if floyd haters think that pac's win against oscar was the greatest thing on earth that if pbf beats manny they will say that manny was too small or something..
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Originally posted by PerryDplatypus View PostYes, but people would still hate him for not fighting Cotto/MargOriginally posted by Jim Jeffries View PostThat's why Pac, who trains at sea level, had absolutely no chance against JMM, who trains at 8000 feet and higher. Pac is notorious for gassing out late in fights.
Of course Floyd got credit for beating DLH and Hatton. But since DLH was 9 years past his peak at #1 p4p, had only fought once in more than 2 1/2 years and had lost 2 of his last 4 fights. And Hatton barely sc****d by Collazo in his only previous fight at 147, probably not the ATG credit you try to give him. At least not just from those two fights. Good wins, both of them. Pac at this stage would be a great win, especially at 140 or below.
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Originally posted by goblin View Postfloyd SHOULD get credit but overall he wont..people want floyd to lose so badly that even if floyd haters think that pac's win against oscar was the greatest thing on earth that if pbf beats manny they will say that manny was too small or something..
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Of course Floyd got credit for beating DLH and Hatton. But since DLH was 9 years past his peak at #1 p4p, had only fought once in more than 2 1/2 years and had lost 2 of his last 4 fights.
that's why dfloyd won't get credit for beating manny. if floyd went up to 154 oscar's natural weight class for the past 7 years and beats oscar for his belt you bring up oscar losing at 160 and not being p4p#1. what the f.u.c.k does that have to do with floyd beating him at 154. if floyd beat pacman are you going to say oh pac lost to morales already.
And Hatton barely sc****d by Collazo in his only previous fight at 147, probably not the ATG credit you try to give him. At least not just from those two fights. Good wins, both of them. Pac at this stage would be a great win, especially at 140 or below.and you claim oscar and hatton were good wins, what has pacquiao done in the last three years that measured up to what hatton and oscar were at the time
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Mayweather isn't that much bigger than Pacquiao. Floyd's closer to a 140 fighter than a 147 fighter IMO.
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Then Floyd should fight Margarito or Cotto. Then the world will give him the credit he deserves. Fact is he avoiding fighters who has a chance of beating his ass. But I doubt he would fight any of them. This two fighters are both dangerous and he wont be taking any risk. Just stay in retirement Floyd, that will be good for you.
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Originally posted by Brandish View Postmarg, cotto, and clottey are not great fighters. they have to build a legacy like pac and floyd did for floyd to fight them.
and keep in mind duran never cleaned out 160so why is ther talk of cfloyd coming back to beat everyone at 147, he already beat the guys he needed to at his natural weight of 130.
are you saying pac is not great because he didn't clean out any division he has ever been in
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