LOL @ anyone thinking JoeC is p4p number 1

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Anyone who thinks Joe's win over Roy holds more significance than Manny's win last night is a moron, seriously.

Truth is Manny has four wins that are better than any of Joe's.

I dont have a problem with anyone ranking either man over each other. What pisses me off is the arrogance of some people who beleive that anyone who disagrees with them is a "moron".

Werent the people who even picked Manny to win called "morons" 24 hours ago?

[-MAKAVELLI-]

So Oscar is a legend and not shot. But Roy is shot, washed up, punchless etc.

I prefer to give bothy guys credit and stay consistent rather than promote horrible double standards but thats just me.

there are no double standards fight fan....they both get props for their wins...however, in an effort to 'stay consistent' and not disregard the details of their wins, Manny 's was more impressive...dirk, step back and just absorb the fact that a MIDGET made de la hoya quit.....think about it

[Dan...]

I dont have a problem with anyone ranking either man over each other. What pisses me off is the arrogance of some people who beleive that anyone who disagrees with them is a "moron".

Werent the people who even picked Manny to win called "morons" 24 hours ago?

I just can't see how it is logical for the win over Roy to be seen as more significant than Manny's win last night.

People who think the Earth is flat are morons, I don't see how this is any different.

[them_apples]

How the *** can anyone hate Pac?

Obviously I am a massive Oscar fan, but I could not help but be happy for Manny yesterday, I am also a big fan of his and he is just so exciting and dedicated to the sport.

Bottom line, he is out there fighting big names in several divisions and beating them while Joe has beaten a couple of old guys this year.

Anyone who still thinks Joe is above Manny p4p knows nothing about boxing. End of.

Joe has done nothing, I have a hard time even putting him at 3 he's such a fraud. Why isn't Tarver p4p 3? he knocked out a shot Jones to. There are lots of fighters that could do what Joe has done, nobody currently can do what Pacquiao is doing. On top of that, Pacquiao is 29..lol Joe is ending his Career.

[them_apples]

So Joe dominates and embarrasses Roy yet gets no credit cos Roys a washed up shot fighter. Yet Manny does the same to Oscar and suddenly hes undisputed P4P no1 and anyone who disagrees is ******.

Ok then

Oscar wasn't shot, he was past his best, but not shot. Oscar was coming off a win and a SD loss to Mayweather. Jones has been knocked out by average fighters.

Oscar is way bigger than Pacquiao, the size difference was huge... Calzaghe almost looked bigger than Jones.

Oscar is 35, Roy is nearing 40. Difference. EVERYONE KNEW ROY WAS SHOT, EVERYONE THOUGHT OSCAR WAS GOING TO KILL PACQUIAO. DIFFERENCE.

Joe couldn't knock Roy out, Pacquiao pulverized Oscar and got a TKO.

What does Pacquiao do when he beats Oscar? he says "you are still my Idol" What does Joe do when he beats Jones " i'm a legend killer" or says things about him being great to hype up his win.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I just can't see how it is logical for the win over Roy to be seen as more significant than Manny's win last night.

People who think the Earth is flat are morons, I don't see how this is any different.

So P4P is based on one fight? Personally I dont see how anyone could've really said Pacquiao beat Marquez the 2nd time.......so its never sat well with me to place Manny over him. Joe also beat Hopkins and Kessler. For me thats better than David Diaz and Barrera 2.

At the end of the day its all opinions.

People who thought the world was flat were once thought to be the brightest minds in the world. We're all wrong sometimes and for someone to turn around and say their opinion is infallible and anyone who disagrees with them is a moron is ridiculous.

[Kastrioti]

Joe has done nothing, I have a hard time even putting him at 3 he's such a fraud. Why isn't Tarver p4p 3? he knocked out a shot Jones to. There are lots of fighters that could do what Joe has done, nobody currently can do what Pacquiao is doing. On top of that, Pacquiao is 29..lol Joe is ending his Career.

Like??? Based on just beating someone like B-Hop Joe deserves to be in the top 3. Look at what B-Hop did to the MW king.

[them_apples]

So P4P is based on one fight? Personally I dont see how anyone could've really said Pacquiao beat Marquez the 2nd time.......so its never sat well with me to place Manny over him. Joe also beat Hopkins and Kessler. For me thats better than David Diaz and Barrera 2.

At the end of the day its all opinions.

People who thought the world was flat were once thought to be the brightest minds in the world. We're all wrong sometimes and for someone to turn around and say their opinion is infallible and anyone who disagrees with them is a moron is ridiculous.

seriously you would have to be delusional to think Joe is a better fighter than Pacquiao.

[them_apples]

Like??? Based on just beating someone like B-Hop Joe deserves to be in the top 3. Look at what B-Hop did to the MW king.

Dawson could beat everyone Joe has beat.

[Dan...]

seriously you would have to be delusional to think Joe is a better fighter than Pacquiao.

I agree with this. Pacqiauo is streets ahead of the rest right now.