So light weights david diaz and JMM did better LMFAO

[MexicanBoxing1]

I think any of the good active lightweight boxers as JMM or even David Diaz could beat Saturday’s night Oscar. That was just so f**ken strange. I am not taking credit from Pac, but Oscar fought horrible. Every Friday I see better boxers locally than Yesterday's Oscar.. That was sad. He fought like an amateur, rookie, etc..

[JOM'S]

I think any of the good active lightweight boxers as JMM or even David Diaz could beat Saturday’s night Oscar. That was just so f**ken strange. I am not taking credit from Pac, but Oscar fought horrible. Every Friday I see better boxers locally than Yesterday's Oscar.. That was sad. He fought like an amateur, rookie, etc..

JMM with the advantage of hindsight, I would give the benefit of the doubt, but he aint a south paw nor as active as PAC

Diaz on the otherhand even being a lefty, will be there standing to get HIT and even with all his heart, he will be KTFO early...

[MaYaN_SuN]

lol Thats what I'm sayin...

And with Oscar's caliber of hands/reach he shouldn't have only been on the list to put up a good fight with Paq, but he should have been the first on that list to KO him in the states. But that contractual obligation about the weight (that Oscar willingly signed) ultimately sent Oscar into the fight dead on his feet.

That was another huuuuge gambel on Oscar's part. And he lost in a major way.

And the more I think about it, Oscar should stay away from 147 unless he's permitted to make 147 at the weigh in, and then come in at any weight he feels like come fight night.

[Left Hook Tua]

lol Thats what I'm sayin...

And with Oscar's caliber of hands/reach he shouldn't have only been on the list to put up a good fight with Paq, but he should have been the first on that list to KO him in the states. But that contractual obligation about the weight (that Oscar willingly signed) ultimately sent Oscar into the fight dead on his feet.

That was another huuuuge gambel on Oscar's part. And he lost in a major way.

And the more I think about it, Oscar should stay away from 147 unless he's permitted to make 147 at the weigh in, and then come in at any weight he feels like come fight night.

like roach said , "oscar trained to make weight."

i think he could have made 147 and been 160 in the ring but he didn't want to.

i think he was afraid of the unofficial weigh in to show a weight disparity.

we'll see if he ever fights again whether his loss to manny was due to weight drain or if he's just shot.

[El Jesus]

sadly i saw in oscar what i saw in roy jones last month, a man who simply couldnt pull the trigger. Alibata keeps saying oscar wasnt shot, but if freddie roach himself was arguing and advocating that he was, why would you say any different? He looked shot last night, completely infact, why even dispute it, if you know oscar, you know hes beaten the **** out of smaller guys like paez, CHAVEZ (yea i said it) and Camacho.

[El Jesus]

Barrera wasn't in his prime at all!! When he fought Hamed he was already considered shot after getting his ass handed to him by Junior Jones twice. He had only two real wins after Junior Jones and that was Morales in the third fight and Hamed. Erik was shot after the Zahir Raheem loss and everyone new that yet Manny still fought him after that.

And most top boxing critic's(who are more than just fan's) Actually feel JMM won both fights against manny. Oh yeah and he just became the Lightweight champion of the world.

Nobody was saying barrera was shot after the jones fights, they were saying jones was a bad matchup but thats it. Pac fought barrera I while he was in his prime, Erik was past it by the time pac got to him in the first fight, and i still consider him past it in the 2nd, by the third, he was obviously shot IMO, which says alot about pac fighting david diaz.

[MaYaN_SuN]

He didn't want to or he couldn't?

I've been reading that it was in his contract that he couldn't walk into the ring above 147 without paying a fine per pound.

Either thats how he came in willingly, or that he agreed to come in at that weight. It's Oscar's fault for takin that gamble.

[Left Hook Tua]

He didn't want to or he couldn't?

I've been reading that it was in his contract that he couldn't walk into the ring above 147 without paying a fine per pound.

Either thats how he came in willingly, or that he agreed to come in at that weight. It's Oscar's fault for takin that gamble.

i don't know about that. that's bs to me.

some guy probably got confused about the weigh in agreement and thought it applied to coming in the ring weight.

either way oscar only has himself to blame.

[AndyShitHot]

I agree, I thought Oscar's performance was beyond pathietic and i'm surprised more people aren't up in arms about this. I'm not trying to take anything away from Pac but it looked like Oscar wanted to be retired. In the seventh he just let Manny pummel him, why the **** did he not even attempt a jab to keep Manny away. I would have been pissed off if i'd paid for that so called fight and for the money DLH got, he should have at least let Manny KO him properly.

[nelsoncm]

Proof that Nacho, Dundee, Joel and Zaragoza are the worst, lowliest kind of species for tolerating what Oscar fed to them. They conspired altogether.

And Oscar was willing to suffer brain damage just to pass the torch to Manny.

Is this what you're saying?

Because from my point of view, Morales, Barrera, Diaz connived with their respective trainers too. Even Ledwaba did, even going so far as to suffer a broken nose.