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  • noypi2
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    #41
    Originally posted by deanrw
    You could also say Pavlik forgot how to fight against Hopkins and Pavlik is still in his prime.

    Oscar is older and slower than he used to be while Manny was just a speed demon and was all over the damn place. Oscar could not unload because Manny was too quick to give him a target. Same thing happened with Pavlik. The speed and the angles he just didn't have an answer for. A younger Oscar would have had better reflexes to deal with it.
    Thank you! I don't think Dela Hoya is shot, Pac was just to quick for him. You can't hit what you can't see. I bet Dela Hoya will be a different fighter fighting opponent that doesn't move like Pac.

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      #42
      Seriously! Pac man won because he's the PFP king!! But at the same time it's obvious that Oscar is shot, old and it's over for him. Too bad the performace Manny put on is only going to fan the flames for those who claim that Manny only fights shot fighters. Lets be honest here JMM was the only fighter he's fought in the last 10 years that was anywhere near his prime so I would really like him to take on fighters who can actually hit him back. Hatton sounds good and a third fight with JMM before he loses his prime would solidify his legacy.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
        he's shot.

        get over it.

        he's old and was weight drained.

        there's no ****** conspiracy. only ****** conspiracy theories.
        You got that right!

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          #44
          Originally posted by pistol whip
          Seriously! Pac man won because he's the PFP king!! But at the same time it's obvious that Oscar is shot, old and it's over for him. Too bad the performace Manny put on is only going to fan the flames for those who claim that Manny only fights shot fighters. Lets be honest here JMM was the only fighter he's fought in the last 10 years that was anywhere near his prime so I would really like him to take on fighters who can actually hit him back. Hatton sounds good and a third fight with JMM before he loses his prime would solidify his legacy.
          What's annoying are those fans who's prior to the fight said DLH will kill Pac, DLH will send Pac to early retirement, now posting Pac only fights shot fighters or its a fraud. People should man up and accept the defeat.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Alibata
            You obviously do not know how to watch boxing or analyze a performance.. You know nothing of what Pacquiao did to nullify anything from De La Hoya... Look at the one replay where they slow motioned DLH throwing a very akward left with his feet out of place... If De La Hoya commits to a punch with steam behind it, he needs to have his footing in place... Pacquiao never let DLH get of a shot because he was at odd angles that would be too risky for DLH to do anything major because pac would hit him before he could square up or was out of range before he could square up, yah dig... Pac was quick enough to close that gap at a safe distance away from DLH jab and made him pay for even jabbing. Manny invalidated oscars Jab and did not give him an angle to throw the left. You have no credibiity... I for one see a guy with too much pride that believes everything he thinks of... Sure dude. God Bless.
            oh sorry mr expert analysis. So can you tell me why oscar came in so light on fight night? Please come up with an excuse/explanation for that. Also explain to me why in the 7th round dlh allowed him self to get hit so much while in the corner? I guess he also forgot how to clinch with age? he also forgot where he was in the ring even though he's laying on the ropes? Also explain why when he got pushed out of the corner he grabs the ropes and purposely goes back to the corner and lets himself get hit again. When have you seen a fighter of any caliber spend 50 seconds in the corner much less a dlh? When have you seen a guy purposely stay in the corner when getting hit making no effort to get out or clinch and when he finally does get room he uses it to pull himself back into the corner to sit on the ropes again.

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              #46
              Originally posted by noypi2
              What's annoying are those fans who's prior to the fight said DLH will kill Pac, DLH will send Pac to early retirement, now posting Pac only fights shot fighters or its a fraud. People should man up and accept the defeat.
              when have i said pac fights shot fighters? Take that **** somewhere else! I like pac always have liked him always will and i was rooting for him. But doesn't mean i was sold by oscar performance last night. and you must not have alot of family or friends to watch boxing with because alot of people think something went on last night. Get of your high horse dude. You really think pac will stay at 147 and fight mosley, cotto, margarito, clottey, williams? yea ***en right if last night was legit then he would stay at 147 because that's where the money is at but none of the fighters i just listed would let pacquiao win like oscar did. Pretty funny dlh has rights to promote pacs next fight and hey his next fight will be against a golden boy fighter in hatton in another mega fight promoted by dlh.

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                #47
                Originally posted by noypi2
                What's annoying are those fans who's prior to the fight said DLH will kill Pac, DLH will send Pac to early retirement, now posting Pac only fights shot fighters or its a fraud. People should man up and accept the defeat.
                Actually I had made it a point not to make this an excuse. Manny deserves to be the PFP king and he is the best fighter on the planet end of story. But other than JMM Marquez which of the fighters he has fought over the last 10 years could be considered in their prime? This is a simple observation my friend and I'm not hating on Manny. He is very talanted fighter but come on when Freddy Roach himself said that he wouldn't of let Pacman fight a Prime De La Hoya what does that mean? It means he let Manny fight Oscar because he knew Oscar was shot.

                But please tell who Manny has fought in their prime?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by noypi2
                  Thank you! I don't think Dela Hoya is shot, Pac was just to quick for him. You can't hit what you can't see. I bet Dela Hoya will be a different fighter fighting opponent that doesn't move like Pac.
                  So now pac is hard to hit? that's a new one lol. You truely are blind!!! Floyd is 10 times harder to hit than paquiao and that didn't stop oscar from trying! did it? I'm sure dlh was scared of paquiao the guy that couldn't even knock out a lightweight even after knocking him down 4 times in 24 rounds. Dlh must have been terrified of getting knocked out by his big opponent that he was just standing there scared to throw. Because to paq would counter dlh? since when the *** did pac become a counter puncher?

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by pistol whip
                    Actually I had made it a point not to make this an excuse. Manny deserves to be the PFP king and he is the best fighter on the planet end of story. But other than JMM Marquez which of the fighters he has fought over the last 10 years could be considered in their prime? This is a simple observation my friend and I'm not hating on Manny. He is very talanted fighter but come on when Freddy Roach himself said that he wouldn't of let Pacman fight a Prime De La Hoya what does that mean? It means he let Manny fight Oscar because he knew Oscar was shot.

                    But please tell who Manny has fought in their prime?
                    dude manny has fought barrera JMM and morales in their prime! JMM twice! He fought morales after morales' trilogy with barrera but you must have missed the first fight were morales killed paquiao! You think morales was shot then?

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by a la verga
                      dude manny has fought barrera JMM and morales in their prime! JMM twice! He fought morales after morales' trilogy with barrera but you must have missed the first fight were morales killed paquiao! You think morales was shot then?

                      Barrera wasn't in his prime at all!! When he fought Hamed he was already considered shot after getting his ass handed to him by Junior Jones twice. He had only two real wins after Junior Jones and that was Morales in the third fight and Hamed. Erik was shot after the Zahir Raheem loss and everyone new that yet Manny still fought him after that.

                      And most top boxing critic's(who are more than just fan's) Actually feel JMM won both fights against manny. Oh yeah and he just became the Lightweight champion of the world.

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