De La Hoya > Joe Calzaghe?

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    #31
    Originally posted by fightnews55
    Calzaghe is a ****ing fraud!
    And you are a prick! Woo hoo!



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    • DiegoFuego
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      #32
      I rank Oscar way, way, way ahead of Joe Calzaghe and his **** resume

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      • The Texican
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        #33
        Originally posted by DiegoFuego
        I rank Oscar way, way, way ahead of Joe Calzaghe and his **** resume
        I second that. Oscar's resume is a who's who of the last 20 years. I've always thought of Joe as a master of the Olympic style.

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        • S.G.
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          #34
          Originally posted by blackirish137
          De La Hoya had a very long, accomplished career before he even made it to Welterweight. The guy had a ton of outstanding wins there, over champions like Jorge Paez, John Molina, Ruelas, Hernandez, Leija, Chavez, MA Gonzalez. some of these guys were past their best, most noticably Chavez, but these were damn good wins. people give Mayweather a huge amount of credit for his win over Genaro(as they should) when De La Hoya beat a few years earlier, and people give Tsyzu a lot of credit for his win over Gonzalez when De La Hoya beat him first.

          Oscar has had his share of controversial fights/losses when he fought his hardest opponents, but that kind of makes since, doesnt it?

          people usually discount Oscar's win over Mayorga, but hes probebly about as good as Calzaghe's win over Lacy. Mayorga was actually the #1 in a division at one time, and was a belt holder when De La Hoya beat him.

          I think its pretty clear that De La Hoya is much better legacy wise.
          /thread

          not to mention Golden Boy's just plain and simple a better boxer than Calzaghe

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          • SonOfCuba
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            #35
            Oscar, easily

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            • AKATheMack
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              #36
              ****** comparison, not even close

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              • Shadow boxer 3
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                #37
                Originally posted by Allucard
                Eubanks was also past his best and coming off two losses to Steve Collins (just so you get a measure of how shot he was, not as shot as Roy but more shot than Bernard).
                Lets drop the politically correct **** and be real. Oscar is an Hall of Famer and that suits him very well because he's such a star. His accomplishments came just a little bit short but HE TOOK risks and earned his place in the hall of fame. Calzaghe is ****. He's not an hall of famer imo, no ATG for sure. He's a Sven Ottke on steroids and the only thing special about him is his wor krate for his weight class. He has beat no one with a linear belt, his two best wins are Kessler and Hopkins and Hopkins clearly stands out. Does that give you the hall of fame? Should he lower the bar so this fraud can get aboard? The guy never took a risk, never moved up until he was freaking 36 years of age for "the money fights" which is just an excuse to fight a couple 40 year olds!!

                I know many won't agree, but if so, tell me, what was his defining fight? Every great one needs a couple at least. Is there a prime Foreman, Frazier or Duran in his record? The man didn't even dominated his division, staying in Europe under the radar while Jones and Hopkins among others were young. Now that a young star, Dawson, who is the reining champion and the man to beat in the division, is there he's going out (as an ATG) and call it quits. Fine, good for him, but don't come here calling him anything else than a good* undefeated fighter because that's what he is. And i say good with a *
                because i don't really think he's that good, his activity is not a problem for someone who can tag him consistently for 12 rounds. Too open, his trick may work on senior citizens but a young champion like Dawson will give him more than he can handle.
                GREAT post. every point u made was spot on.

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                • aether
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Shadow boxer 3
                  GREAT post. every point u made was spot on.
                  De La Hoya will be remembered after 20 years. Joe Calzaghe will not.

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                  • dans
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by ReppinDubK
                    ****** comparison, not even close
                    You're right it's not even close, DLH by a mile. However, the writer of the ATG article's has Calzaghe an ATG and DLH just a Hall of Famer. When I looked at the comments after the article came out, everyone was agreeing with the article. It's not a ****** comparison when it's put out there like it was.

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                    • bsrizpac
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by CastorTroy
                      And the sad fact is that those wins are bigger then any of Oscars wins... Unless you think beating mayorga is a huge accomplishment. Do you like to be served rough?
                      umm Roy jones a corpse. You are a ****ing dumbass.

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