Miguel Cotto vs. Paul Williams

[Sweet Pea 50]

One of those fights that PWill should really use his height and reach advantage to the fullest. I think if Cotto can goad PWill into a inside slugfest, he has a shot at beating him.

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It's not as though Williams is Nicolai Valuev and is unable to move and box... you seem to be basing th is on the one fight, the first Quintana fight, against another southpaw. IF anyone is going to have problems its going to be the 5 foot 7 guy with short arms trying to figure out how to beat someone 7 inches taller with a foot longer reach, who bounces around, has a solid chin, throws 100+ punches around, and is a southpaw... I can't possibly see Cotto as being anything BUT the underdog in this fight.

I think Williams is just as capable of moving around and boxing right with Cotto... Miguel also doesn't have the most technical defense ive ever seen either... I see the "lean-in ear muff" defense being a serious problem as well... Cotto's main weapon would be to goto the body and suck williams into a toe-to-toe battle.

I'm not saying Cotto can't win the fight... but acting as though Cotto would be anything other than the underdog, is quite ree****yaluss, to me.

Oh I see what you did there!


I think PWill would be a very slight favorite in this fight...a Cotto victory wouldn't shock me in the least.

[TRAVI$]

All Cotto has to do is find a vine, use it to swing up onto Williams shoulders and deactivate him.

[egreezy]

If the fight is on the inside and a slugfest, even if Cotto is winning and has the advantage who is more likely to tire and get hurt before the end of the fight.

[THE REED]

All Cotto has to do is find a vine, use it to swing up onto Williams shoulders and deactivate him.

lmao.............

[THE REED]

If the fight is on the inside and a slugfest, even if Cotto is winning and has the advantage who is more likely to tire and get hurt before the end of the fight.

note-worthy.........

[Silencers]

It's not as though Williams is Nicolai Valuev and is unable to move and box... you seem to be basing this on the one fight, the first Quintana fight, against another southpaw. IF anyone is going to have problems its going to be the 5 foot 7 guy with short arms trying to figure out how to beat someone 7 inches taller with a foot longer reach, who bounces around, has a solid chin, throws 100+ punches around, and is a southpaw... I can't possibly see Cotto as being anything BUT the underdog in this fight.

I think Williams is just as capable of moving around and boxing right with Cotto... Miguel also doesn't have the most technical defense ive ever seen either... I see the "lean-in ear muff" defense being a serious problem as well... Cotto's main weapon would be to goto the body and suck williams into a toe-to-toe battle.

I'm not saying Cotto can't win the fight... but acting as though Cotto would be anything other than the underdog, is quite ree****yaluss, to me.

I saw it against Phillips as well before Phillips slowed down and started staying still, the first 2 rounds weren't cakewalks for Williams because Phillips was moving around, what Phillips was doing wrong was that he was moving into Williams' right hand which allowed him to get pushed back to the ropes, I'm pretty sure Cotto would be smarter than that. Movers give Williams problems, he also reaches with his punches when his opponent is moving which happened in both the first Quintana fight and the early moments of the Phillips fight.

Cotto has shown that he can punch upwards effectively against Margarito and those are the shots that Williams is most susceptible to, shots over the top and Williams has a long body which is perfect for a body puncher like Cotto, he would have to be careful not to get caught with anything while body punching though.

And I disagree, his gameplan shouldn't be to suck Williams into a toe to toe battle because that allows Williams to get his feet set and he's a good inside fighter, which would allow him to get his punches off, all 100+ of them and it would allow Williams to lean on Cotto, he'd be the bigger man on fight night, moving is the way to beat Williams, just subtle movement like Quintana gave him.

The main thing in this fight is can Cotto keep it up? Because if he can for 12 rounds he wins, if he can't then he would be in trouble late in the fight again even though Williams does not put as much pressure as a guy like Margarito does.

I wouldn't be surprised if Cotto is the underdog but if the fight gets made, I'm putting my points on Cotto.

Cong**** on 15,000.

[rizkybizness]

It's not as though Williams is Nicolai Valuev and is unable to move and box... you seem to be basing this on the one fight, the first Quintana fight, against another southpaw. IF anyone is going to have problems its going to be the 5 foot 7 guy with short arms trying to figure out how to beat someone 7 inches taller with a foot longer reach, who bounces around, has a solid chin, throws 100+ punches around, and is a southpaw... I can't possibly see Cotto as being anything BUT the underdog in this fight.

I think Williams is just as capable of moving around and boxing right with Cotto... Miguel also doesn't have the most technical defense ive ever seen either... I see the "lean-in ear muff" defense being a serious problem as well... Cotto's main weapon would be to goto the body and suck williams into a toe-to-toe battle.

I'm not saying Cotto can't win the fight... but acting as though Cotto would be anything other than the underdog, is quite ree****yaluss, to me.

I don't have one single ounce of doubt in my mind that Cotto would be able to move around and get in and out effectively against Williams, my biggest concern would be Williams hurting Cotto and/or Williams being able to effectively "fight tall" and keep Cotto on the outside. In all honesty though, I don't think Williams is capable of keeping Cotto on the outside of his (****) jab long enough for him to take advantage of his height.

[THE REED]

I saw it against Phillips as well before Phillips slowed down and started staying still, the first 2 rounds weren't cakewalks for Williams because Phillips was moving around, what Phillips was doing wrong was that he was moving into Williams' right hand which allowed him to get pushed back to the ropes, I'm pretty sure Cotto would be smarter than that. Movers give Williams problems, he also reaches with his punches when his opponent is moving which happened in both the first Quintana fight and the early moments of the Phillips fight.

Cotto has shown that he can punch upwards effectively against Margarito and those are the shots that Williams is most susceptible to, shots over the top and Williams has a long body which is perfect for a body puncher like Cotto, he would have to be careful not to get caught with anything while body punching though.

And I disagree, his gameplan shouldn't be to suck Williams into a toe to toe battle because that allows Williams to get his feet set and he's a good inside fighter, which would allow him to get his punches off, all 100+ of them and it would allow Williams to lean on Cotto, he'd be the bigger man on fight night, moving is the way to beat Williams, just subtle movement like Quintana gave him.

The main thing in this fight is can Cotto keep it up? Because if he can for 12 rounds he wins, if he can't then he would be in trouble late in the fight again even though Williams does not put as much pressure as a guy like Margarito does.

I wouldn't be surprised if Cotto is the underdog but if the fight gets made, I'm putting my points on Cotto.

Cong**** on 15,000.

I see where your coming from, and it certainly makes sense... I saw what was happening in the earlier rounds. I think that tends to happen when Williams gets sloppy or careless against an opponent hes not necessarily concerned about... I know that may come across as a bull**** excuse, but I think it's a viable reason, as he doesn't seem to concerned with counters when fighting lesser opponents... Not that Quintana is necessarily a lesser opponent, but In Pauls eyes I don't think he viewed Quintana as a threat... which of course, was his own fault.

But against someone like Cotto, I see him being very "by the book". Anyways, as you were stating Williams likes to reach in a lot, and makes him suceptible to the counter, which is true... But when a 6 foot 2 guy is reaching with an 82 inch reach to land a jab and a straight left... it isnt going to be easy for a 5 foot 7 guy to counter him... ESPECIALLY when that guy has a SOLID chin, and only seems to goto work more when he gets hit...

I noticed every time Paul got hit he seemed to only be motivated to stay there and throw more punches. That COULD be a downfall of his against Cotto, OR it could be the exact type of pressure that you need when fighting Cotto... When it comes down to Stamina and Chin, I think Cotto is in over his head... Also with work rate, he would be very over-matched... I think your looking for Cotto to "Quintana" Williams... but I don't think Cotto's style is to similiar to Quintana's...

But I do see where your coming from... and it isn't out of the realm of possibility for Cotto to counter Williams "Reach-In" shots... Just how long can he do it for?

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too big

too strong

too black

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