a lot ricky just got lucky
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how much better is calzaaghe's resume than hatton's?
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Originally posted by sitai View Postlets match them up head to head
kessler - tszyu
lacy - malignaggi
roy jones - castillo
hopkins - floyd...
Tsyzu>Kessler
Although he was getting on, he was still the man at 140. Kessler was Calzaghe's best win but I think Hatton's performance against Tsyzu was a lot more entertaining and impressive.
Lacy>Malignaggi
This is pretty even. I actually think Malignaggi is a slightly better fighter but both of them are the same type of fighters for example they just fall short of beating the elite.
At the end of the day, Calzaghe's performance was just a lot more impressive. He massacred Lacy better than Hatton did Paulie.
Castillo>Roy Jones
Both past it fighters. The difference is Hatton destroyed Castillo in the 4th round with a crunching body shot in a fight to put himself on the map. Joe Calzaghe went 12 rounds with a WAY PAST IT Roy Jones who wasn't throwing any shots in a "career defining fight".
Hopkins>Floyd
Although Hopkins is the better win for Calzaghe (seeing as Hatton lost this fight), I think Hatton stepping up to fight the p4p best fighter on the planet gives him more respect from the boxing community.
I think Hatton's resume is A LOT better than Calzaghe's without question. I mean, Calzaghe never challenged for another belt for NINE YEARS!
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Originally posted by Cletus Funk View PostYou do know that Joe was supposed to fight Collins for the belt but he suddenly decided to retire 2 weeks before the fight, right?
Oh, and Eubank didn't look too shot in his CW fights with Thompson afterwards.
fine i'll count manny pacquiao for ricky. since he's suppose to fight manny but oscar might/could ruin it.
so he fights at cruiserweight after joe and does good.......considering he hadn't been a 168 fighter for 2 years before the joe fight......kinda weakens joe's win even more doesn't it?
if he's fighting at 190 1 fight later and hasn't fought at his natural weight class for 2 years......kinda proves he was past it. past it guys can't make their weight easily anymore.
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Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Postso we're counting "supposed" fights as part of the resume now.
fine i'll count manny pacquiao for ricky. since he's suppose to fight manny but oscar might/could ruin it.
so he fights at cruiserweight after joe and does good.......considering he hadn't been a 168 fighter for 2 years before the joe fight......kinda weakens joe's win even more doesn't it?
if he's fighting at 190 1 fight later and hasn't fought at his natural weight class for 2 years......kinda proves he was past it. past it guys can't make their weight easily anymore.
Eubank fought weight drained half of the time anyway and he was only 31 for ****'s sake. Shot fighters don't jump 2 divisions and miss out on winning a world title by a whisker. Calzaghe was a relative novice and he absolutley dominated Eubank. Impressive.
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Originally posted by Cletus Funk View PostNah ,the point is JC went after the strongest titlist at the time. He didn't go looking for a vacant belt. Hardly his fault that Collins' ass fell out before the fight.
Eubank fought weight drained half of the time anyway and he was only 31 for ****'s sake. Shot fighters don't jump 2 divisions and miss out on winning a world title by a whisker. Calzaghe was a relative novice and he absolutley dominated Eubank. Impressive.
oh don't get me wrong eubank win was a good win. i always count it as one of his best wins.
i'm just pointing out some things on the eubank win since SOME seem to try to diminish ricky's resume and his win over kostya.
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Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Poststeve collins had no interest in losing to joe. at least from what i've read......
oh don't get me wrong eubank win was a good win. i always count it as one of his best wins.
i'm just pointing out some things on the eubank win since SOME seem to try to diminish ricky's resume and his win over kostya.
I'm a massive fan of Ricky's too. I was at the Tszyu fight.
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