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  • Wiley Hyena
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    #21
    Originally posted by Benny Leonard
    So you didn't understand my point that it was really a JrWW fight except there was no need to drain weight for the weigh-in?

    Both fighters were under 150 by fight time; same weight 140 pound fighters show up at by fight time for their fights.

    the only thing you could mean/say is that Floyd would somehow lost some strength by draining weight and then putting it back on.



    And here is another answer for you:

    Hatton turned down Floyd twice while Floyd was at 140, so that should answer it.


    It's just the way it is...we are talking about Floyd Mayweather Jr.

    Not a bad fighter to lose to
    Of course Mayweather would have wanted to fight little overrated Hatton back then. Easy money. But, Hatton at 140 now is looking more competitive. Let's face it, neither guy is exactly Sugar Ray Robinson, but they both make for interesting fights. I'll agree that Floyd is the betting favorite in a rematch, though. His defense is twice better than Malignaggi's.

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    • Benny Leonard
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      #22
      Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
      Of course Mayweather would have wanted to fight little overrated Hatton back then. Easy money. But, Hatton at 140 now is looking more competitive. Let's face it, neither guy is exactly Sugar Ray Robinson, but they both make for interesting fights. I'll agree that Floyd is the betting favorite in a rematch, though. His defense is twice better than Malignaggi's.
      OH, Floyd vs. Ricky now?

      Still favor Floyd. Floyd's in his 30's now, has been off a year, and the fight would take place in May/June if it were in England at Wembley, so... If Floyd had no tune-up fights between that, that gives a little more room for Hatton to succeed.

      Personally, I don't like the way Floyd Jr. has been fighting. He doesn't punch as much, which might be because of his hands, and he just sits there and barely moves around compared to when he was younger/lighter.
      Floyd used to want to win every round but now, he is very cautious when he fights. I think it goes hand and hand with his interview about worrying about his health for his kids…eh

      I think Floyd would have to act and fight like his younger version to beat this Hatton. He would need to fight from round 1
      instead of just sitting there waiting.
      It kind of reminds me of how Hopkins used to start to take off for the first 6 rounds as he got older. Somewhat similar to Jones Jr as he got older and used the one shot at a time/pot-shot, decreased use of the jab in exchange for the lead right, and just stationary approach.


      And yes, I agree, neither is SRR...which some have put him up there with.
      Last edited by Benny Leonard; 11-23-2008, 01:10 AM.

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      • them_apples
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        #23
        Mayweather only gets better at lower weights, he's just too quick. Hatton is def a good fighter though, he slips well and is fast on his feet.

        but at 140 Mayweather would woop Hatton I think.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Benny Leonard
          OH, Floyd vs. Ricky now?

          Still favor Floyd. Floyd's in his 30's now, has been off a year, and the fight would take place in May/June if it were in England at Wembley, so... If Floyd had no tune-up fights between that, that gives a little more room for Hatton to succeed.

          Personally, I don't like the way Floyd Jr. has been fighting. He doesn't punch as much, which might be because of his hands, and he just sits there and barely moves around compared to when he was younger/lighter.
          Floyd used to want to win every round but now, he is very cautious when he fights. I think it goes hand and hand with his interview about worrying about his health for his kids…eh

          I think Floyd would have to act and fight like his younger version to beat this Hatton. He would need to fight from round 1
          instead of just sitting there waiting.
          It kind of reminds me of how Hopkins used to start to take off for the first 6 rounds as he got older. Somewhat similar to Jones Jr as he got older and used the one shot at a time/pot-shot, decreased use of the jab in exchange for the lead right, and just stationary approach.


          And yes, I agree, neither is SRR...which some have put him up there with.
          Good post.............

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          • supRa
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            #25
            Originally posted by Flawless 2
            Mayweather at 140 would stop Ricky quicker. Mayweather is a lot more powerful at 140 and faster and would stop Hatton round 5 right check hook ;l1:
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
            the lighter floyd was the more entertaining he was...

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            • El Dominicano
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              #26
              Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
              Ricky Hatton just shamefully embarrassed NY pretty boy, Paulie Malignaggi, at 140. It was a total clown job. By round 5, Malignaggi was just trying to survive without getting a KO on his record. That dream was terminated when his corner threw in the towel in round 11. After the fight, Hatton said he was pleased to be back at the "scene of the crime" (a reference to Joe Cortez, the referree of the Hatton/Floyd fight). Hatton further said nobody can beat him at 140 lbs which is his natural fighting weight.

              Hatton was overrated when he fought Floyd at 147. But, at 140 Hatton is a different fighter. Nobody can doubt that. But, would Hatton have been able to dominate Floyd at 140, too?

              I'm not sure. Unlike Malignaggi, Floyd has a little power. Clearly a fight at 140 would be a closer run thing, but it's hard to see enough difference to make Hatton the betting favorite in a rematch at JrWW. A live longshot...definitely. I would definitely skip the pay preview and catch it on HBO's very first re-run.
              Weight a minute SON...so what your sayin here is that Hatton would stand a MUCH better chance at 140?

              When Mayweather is MORE offensive minded and his hand speed/ foot work is BETTER...

              Yeah...lol

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              • El Dominicano
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                #27
                Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                Malignaggi doesn't really have a power shot to throw. Floyd has a little more zip on his shots than Malignaggi. I wouldn't call it power, but it's enough to get the respect. Yes, Hatton was KOd in the first fight, but that was partially because Hatton fell into the turnbuckle and hit his head.
                A little more? Lol...

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                • Equilibrium
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                  #28
                  Hatton will never beat mayweather, not in this life, not in the next one.

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                  • Wiley Hyena
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by El Dominicano
                    Weight a minute SON...so what your sayin here is that Hatton would stand a MUCH better chance at 140?

                    When Mayweather is MORE offensive minded and his hand speed/ foot work is BETTER...

                    Yeah...lol
                    That is exactly what I'm saying "son." Hatton does have a better chance with Floyd at 140. Floyd is still the favorite, but Hatton is better at 140. Pure and simple. What is there to debate about that?

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                      #30
                      140..147..135...150...it doesnt matter Hatton loses....Mayweather isnt a weight drain fighter

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