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  • Benny Leonard
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    #41
    Originally posted by The Weebler II
    Floyd didn't start fighting on the inside until the 7th. Thats when he got on top and Cortez thought it was ok to allow more inside fighting.



    thats not what happened. Floyd threw an elbow to Ricky's face, caught him, Ricky lost his temper caught Floyd with two good shots, Floyd ran and then dived through the ropes. Hatton, still mad, threw a punch and hit the rope.
    Floyd started when he started; it didn't matter when, he was just better.

    Ricky's aim was to the back of Floyd's head when he was in-between the ropes

    the elbow/forearm is a push-off when an opponent is hugging you.

    If you use your arm to push and extend that arm, it's dangerous; it leaves you open. The forearm/elbow gives you enough room where it is a safe distance and you can counter.
    Last edited by Benny Leonard; 11-23-2008, 01:32 AM.

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    • JulioCesaChavez
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      #42
      Don't be daft, Ricky was outclassed. Joe is a no nonsense ref, but Floyd even outhussled Ricky on inside. That was one thing that really surprised me. Floyd killed him in the pocket and the clinching departments too. Ricky would not even win in England with his best mates Dave Parris and Micky Vann who would let him hit and hold, wrestle and rabbit punch a la tszyu fight! Even his low blows which are allowed in Manch would get blocked. With Floyd Snr, he'll lose on points.

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      • El Dominicano
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        #43
        Originally posted by The Weebler II
        with that referee

        key words tonight: box out of it

        not once, not even once did we hear that from fat boy Cortez
        This is great in all honesty! I was gettin real tired of the Calzaghe/ Marg hype...I feel better already

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        • Wiley Hyena
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          #44
          Originally posted by Benny Leonard
          Floyd was winning on the inside, but yes, he wasn't doing nearly as much early on. I never understood why Floyd adapted that boring ass cautious style. His other style was much better and more effective.

          For the point deduction: Ah, Ricky threw a punch to the back of Floyd's head when Floyd had his back turned and in-between the ropes. You are not allowed to do that; it's dangerous.
          Look. 90% of Hatton's game is on the inside. Joe Cortez took the inside game away by design. Cortez didn't appear paid off, like the British ref in the Tszyu/Hatton fight. But, Cortez was obviously on a mission and he interefered whenever he could do it without giving the appearance of cheating. It was just a case of terrible reffing, pure and simple. Surely, Cortez is the most despised ref in the game right now...at least with Nady you know what's coming. Cortez is the type of guy that just loves to see his own face on TV,, read his own name in print, and the only ref that purposefully attracts attention to himself with that "I'm fair but I'm firm" crap. What kind of ref has to re-affirm that "he's fair"? Being fair is what a ref is supposed to be. Cortez is a worthless media hound who just had to insert himself into a very big match. It was much like the football ref that can't help but throw a controversial flag in the last minute of a tied ballgame. In Hatton v. Mayweather I, it was if Cortez was on a mission to save American boxing. He's a worthless sack of $%&*, a veritable vulgarian, and self important $%^$ing anus licking blowhard &%*sucker. He is also a detestible buffoon and self-important *******.
          Last edited by Wiley Hyena; 11-23-2008, 01:56 AM.

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          • Pullcounter
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            #45
            Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
            Look. 90% of Hatton's game is on the inside. Joe Cortez took the inside game away by design. Cortez didn't appear paid off, like the British ref in the Tszyu/Hatton fight. But, Cortez was obviously on a mission and he interefered whenever he could do it without giving the appearance of cheating. It was just a case of terrible reffing, pure and simple. Surely, Cortez is the most despised ref in the game right now...at least with Nady you know what's coming. Cortez is the type of guy that just loves to see his own face on TV,, read his own name in print, and the only ref that purposefully attracts attention to himself with that "I'm fair but I'm firm" crap. What kind of ref has to re-affirm that "he's fair"? Being fair is what a ref is supposed to be. Cortez is a worthless media hound who just had to insert himself into a very big match. Much like the football ref that can't help but throw a controversial flag in the last minute of a tied ballgame. In Hatton v. Mayweather I, it was if Cortez was on a mission to save American boxing. He's a worthless sack of $%&*. A veritable vulgarian, and self important $%^$ing anus licking blowhard &%*sucker. He is a detestible buffoon self-important *******.
            huh? most of the fight was fought on the inside.

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            • Benny Leonard
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              #46
              Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
              Look. 90% of Hatton's game is on the inside. Joe Cortez took the inside game away by design. Cortez didn't appear paid off, like the British ref in the Tszyu/Hatton fight. But, Cortez was obviously on a mission and he interefered whenever he could do it without giving the appearance of cheating. It was just a case of terrible reffing, pure and simple. Surely, Cortez is the most despised ref in the game right now...at least with Nady you know what's coming. Cortez is the type of guy that just loves to see his own face on TV,, read his own name in print, and the only ref that purposefully attracts attention to himself with that "I'm fair but I'm firm" crap. What kind of ref has to re-affirm that "he's fair"? Being fair is what a ref is supposed to be. Cortez is a worthless media hound who just had to insert himself into a very big match. Much like the football ref that can't help but throw a controversial flag in the last minute of a tied ballgame. In Hatton v. Mayweather I, it was if Cortez was on a mission to save American boxing. He's a worthless sack of $%&*. A veritable vulgarian, and self important $%^$ing anus licking blowhard &%*sucker. He is a detestible buffoon self-important *******.
              I can agree on that. However, I don't think it mattered because Floyd's approach was to mimic Hatton's approach/style.

              Floyd knows that if you want to get into somebody's head, especially someone that is using bully tactics, you bully back and show you are stronger. by using his tactics against him.

              The problem Tszyu had was that he probably wasn't prepared for it; and he was old and a bit weight-drained...which he says he was "flat."

              I've always said the worst thing about that fight with Tszyu was Hatton thinking he was stronger than Kostya because he was able to wear him out. He forgot whe he {Ricky} said himself: Age, and inactivity of Tszyu will be on my side to wear him out. After that, I think Hatton thought he was the strongest at 140 now; stronger than Kostay despite where Kostya was in that fight.

              So he went up against Floyd and tried the tactic and found it didn't work so well.

              Ricky should have reverted right back to his style pre-Tszyu; that would have given him a better chance.

              Plus, I think there is a rule with no holding and hitting...so Cortez had that on his side.

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              • Wiley Hyena
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                #47
                Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                I can agree on that. However, I don't think it mattered because Floyd's approach was to mimic Hatton's approach/style.

                Floyd knows that if you want to get into somebody's head, especially someone that is using bully tactics, you bully back and show you are stronger. by using his tactics against him.

                The problem Tszyu had was that he probably wasn't prepared for it; and he was old and a bit weight-drained...which he says he was "flat."

                I've always said the worst thing about that fight with Tszyu was Hatton thinking he was stronger than Kostya because he was able to wear him out. He forgot whe he {Ricky} said himself: Age, and inactivity of Tszyu will be on my side to wear him out. After that, I think Hatton thought he was the strongest at 140 now; stronger than Kostay despite where Kostya was in that fight.

                So he went up against Floyd and tried the tactic and found it didn't work so well.

                Ricky should have reverted right back to his style pre-Tszyu; that would have given him a better chance.

                Plus, I think there is a rule with no holding and hitting...so Cortez had that on his side.
                Don't get me wrong. Floyd has the talent to beat Hatton 7 out of 10 times. But, Joe Cortez took the remaining 3 away.

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