Robinson or Ali no 1 ATG?

[crold1]

i dont thik its even close ... srr greatest ther is was and ever will be

Oh, there are guys close but Ali ain't one of them. Langford, Greb, Duran...they can all run with SRR but Ali himself gave the nod to Rob.

[them_apples]

Oh, there are guys close but Ali ain't one of them. Langford, Greb, Duran...they can all run with SRR but Ali himself gave the nod to Rob.

Liston, Williams, Frazier, Norton, Foreman is better than anything on Robinsons resume.

Lamotta would lose to the best middleweights (Hagler, RJJ, Hopkins, Monzon to name a few) i don't see why this is such an amazing win compared to Liston or Foreman.

SRL moving up and beating Hagler was a much better Feat.

[Testdead]

2 of the greatest of all times but SRR for me.

[Verstyle]

Unlike MOST ppl. I go by fights I've actually SEEN. Not word of mouth or hopping the bandwagon. If you guys have seen more then 40 of Ray Robinson's fights then I'll shut up.

[Testdead]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3fK2Cc2mxNA

[MikeBrew328]

Skillwise, it goes to Robinson. That man was beautfiul. But as far as greatness goes, I've gotta give it to Ali. The man fought the biggest opponents, Joe Frazier, George Foreman, and the U.S. Government. The George Foreman fight does it for me. He could never have danced around Foreman, he used his mind in htat fight and knocked Foreman out. Plus he lost over 3 years of his prime, we'll never know how it would've turned out if he was active during those years...

[crold1]

Liston, Williams, Frazier, Norton, Foreman is better than anything on Robinsons resume.

Lamotta would lose to the best middleweights (Hagler, RJJ, Hopkins, Monzon to name a few) i don't see why this is such an amazing win compared to Liston or Foreman.

SRL moving up and beating Hagler was a much better Feat.

Really? All those fighters were better P4P than Armstrong? I mean Hank was past it, but even old he was better than Liston or Williams, and beat Zivic, Angott, and Larkin on the road to Rob. Gavilan? Really?

And Lamotta was BAD...you have to be to have wins over Rob, Holman Williams and Cerdan. Any Middle in history has their hands full with LaMotta. Those fighters were all bigger than LaMotta but to say they were all just flat better is absurd. Robinson fought more top guys and was better for a much longer stretch of time to get to another of your points. At an age, past prime, where Ali was getting saved vs. Norton (III) and losing to Leon freaking Spinks, Robinson was splitting FOTY's with Basilio.

Ali was a great fighter, and one of the two greatest Heavyweights ever, maybe the greatest...but P4P, all time, he's a shade off Robinson. Oh, and one-punching Fullmer is every bit as impressive as beating Foreman.

[Oriachim]

bumping thread up.

[larryx]

well in the words of ali.."robinson is the greats fighter of alltime
im the greatest heavyweight of all time"