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  • BattlingNelson
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    #181
    Originally posted by mickey gomez
    If Kessler doesn't have something else in the pipeline then this is a bad move.
    The negotiations aint over yet. Add also that several potential players have upcoming fights (Taylor, Lacy, Froch, Pascal). It's a pretty interesting positioning battle as to who gets the big fights. Patience and schrewdness is a virtue right now managing and promoting the big players around 168 lbs at the moment.

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      #182
      Originally posted by streak12
      Kessler turned down another fight a whikle back
      Dont give me Miranda please. Miranda himself picked Abraham and ditched Kessler in the end.

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        #183
        Originally posted by BatTheMan
        Probably yes legacy wise. However Hopkins might consider Dawson a more dangerous prospect (he really is a cruiserweight ) than fighting the smaller Kessler. Remember Hopkins has always liked to feast on smaller guys.

        Anyway Kessler must be high on the list. At least no.2 if Dawson is the only other.
        He isn't a cruiserweight, he regularly weighs in below 175 and only moved up there a couple of years ago, he says he can still make 168, he normally starts camp at 180 so he's definitely not a cruiserweight shrinking himself into a light heavyweight.

        Hopkins seems intent to solidify his legacy now and that means a Dawson fight is possible.

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          #184
          Originally posted by Silencers
          He isn't a cruiserweight, he regularly weighs in below 175 and only moved up there a couple of years ago, he says he can still make 168, he normally starts camp at 180 so he's definitely not a cruiserweight shrinking himself into a light heavyweight.

          Hopkins seems intent to solidify his legacy now and that means a Dawson fight is possible.
          Maybe since a Jones rematch is out the window, but this could be his toughest fight since Jones in 94.

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            #185
            Originally posted by Silencers
            He isn't a cruiserweight, he regularly weighs in below 175 and only moved up there a couple of years ago, he says he can still make 168, he normally starts camp at 180 so he's definitely not a cruiserweight shrinking himself into a light heavyweight.

            Hopkins seems intent to solidify his legacy now and that means a Dawson fight is possible.
            Yes Dawson is possible. But so is Kessler. I have a hard time coming up with other names.

            Regarding the weight I'd say this: If Dawson could make SMW why wouldn't he agree on a fight at a catchweight? To me that seems like a good scenario for both fighters given that it's a risky fight for both. No titles will be on the line at 170-172. Your thoughts?

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              #186
              Originally posted by BatTheMan
              Yes Dawson is possible. But so is Kessler. I have a hard time coming up with other names.

              Regarding the weight I'd say this: If Dawson could make SMW why wouldn't he agree on a fight at a catchweight? To me that seems like a good scenario for both fighters given that it's a risky fight for both. No titles will be on the line at 170-172. Your thoughts?
              Dawson has other options out there right now whereas Kessler's options aren't that great right now, Kessler needs Dawson more than Dawson needs Kessler IMO so I can understand why Dawson would want Kessler to move up to fight him.

              And it's not to say Dawson can't make 172-173, he was 173 against Johnson, 172 against Mendoza.

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                #187
                Originally posted by BatTheMan
                Probably not. My guess would be that Palle asked team Dawson to make the fight at a catchweight and that Dawson likely refused that.
                Well i remember a few comments from Dawson saying he thought he could still make 168lb remember he hasnt been up at light heavyweight very long.

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                  #188
                  I wonder what money is being touted for Dawson - Kessler? Also, Kessler may want to stick at 168 and try to unify, easier fights and more money maybe?

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                    #189
                    Originally posted by Silencers
                    Dawson has other options out there right now whereas Kessler's options aren't that great right now, Kessler needs Dawson more than Dawson needs Kessler IMO so I can understand why Dawson would want Kessler to move up to fight him.

                    And it's not to say Dawson can't make 172-173, he was 173 against Johnson, 172 against Mendoza.
                    I cannot see dawson having more options than Kessler TBH. Biggest fight for him is Hopkins. After that it's Kessler or Johnson. Both of those must be considered high-risk fights. Why not take Kessler at a catchweight without a belt on the line? In that way the risk will be reduced.

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                      #190
                      Originally posted by BatTheMan
                      I cannot see dawson having more options than Kessler TBH. Biggest fight for him is Hopkins. After that it's Kessler or Johnson. Both of those must be considered high-risk fights. Why not take Kessler at a catchweight without a belt on the line? In that way the risk will be reduced.
                      Dawson's stock is the highest it's ever been right now whereas Kessler's stock has been dropping since his fight with Sartison, Dawson is in the public's eye whereas people are starting to forget about Kessler because of his recent fights, Dawson has Hopkins, Calzaghe, Cloud, Johnson etc., Kessler doesn't have that many options, maybe Hopkins or Bute right now. There's no reason for Dawson to fight Kessler at a catchweight.

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