Is Kelly Pavlik going to be another Jeff Lacy?

[Iamnotausername]

I agree. I'm still wondering why he didn't throw more punches against Bernard though. Did anyone else notice how much less active he was up at 170? He seemed like he had nothing on his punches. I think he needs to stay down at 160 for a while, and when he decides to go to SMW to do it gradually. Jumping up 10 lbs. is not right for a guy like Kelly, he needs to ease into the higher weight.

I think a lot of that was down to B-Hop neutralising his best weapons through movement. From what i saw whenever Kelly was winding up, by the time he was ready to throw Hops was gone. B-Hop is a master at that sort of thing.

He's still a good boxer, his biggest enemy is gonna be his own mindset after this loss if he's taking it as bad as he seems to be.

[kenso]

i think if he brought in a new trainer he could really solidify his game.

he got beat by bernard, there is no shame in that. he got a free lesson, he didnt have to lose his belts, it showed him he is not invincible and has alot to learn.

i wish someone like roach or steward could get pavlik. jack leow just doesnt have the credentials.

[dc6112]

i think if he brought in a new trainer he could really solidify his game.

he got beat by bernard, there is no shame in that. he got a free lesson, he didnt have to lose his belts, it showed him he is not invincible and has alot to learn.

i wish someone like roach or steward could get pavlik. jack leow just doesnt have the credentials.

I wish he could dump Loew. I feel that Pavlik may be too loyal to his roots to dump Loew though, something which I admire but am skeptical of as well, because Loew I think has taught Kelly as much as he is ever gonna teach him. It's time to bring in some more advanced, fresher ideas so Kelly can take the next step. Loew is well intentioned when it comes to Pavlik, but we all know that he is not the best trainer available to Kelly. Hopefully they can part ways as friends, and do it soon, before Kelly is 36 sitting in his corner and still hearing "You gotta double up the ****in jab!"

[larryx]

I wish he could dump Loew. I feel that Pavlik may be too loyal to his roots to dump Loew though, something which I admire but am skeptical of as well, because Loew I think has taught Kelly as much as he is ever gonna teach him. It's time to bring in some more advanced, fresher ideas so Kelly can take the next step. Loew is well intentioned when it comes to Pavlik, but we all know that he is not the best trainer available to Kelly. Hopefully they can part ways as friends, and do it soon, before Kelly is 36 sitting in his corner and still hearing "You gotta double up the ****in jab!"

??????????thats the best advice ive ever heard rounds 1-12..come on man..trainer of the year jack lowe

[Kobe Bryant]

His natural strength and power were his best assets. Both of which were gone at 170. In other words he'll be fine.

[The Gully Gad]

I wish he could dump Loew. I feel that Pavlik may be too loyal to his roots to dump Loew though, something which I admire but am skeptical of as well, because Loew I think has taught Kelly as much as he is ever gonna teach him. It's time to bring in some more advanced, fresher ideas so Kelly can take the next step. Loew is well intentioned when it comes to Pavlik, but we all know that he is not the best trainer available to Kelly. Hopefully they can part ways as friends, and do it soon, before Kelly is 36 sitting in his corner and still hearing "You gotta double up the ****in jab!"

Simliar to Hatton/Grahman...

Out with the old in with the new i say...

[dc6112]

I wish I made this a public poll. all the people who voted No didn't have the balls to identify themselves.

[dstew]

I wish I made this a public poll. all the people who voted No didn't have the balls to identify themselves.

I voted no, but wish there had been more options...

I don't think Hopkins ruined Pavlik, because I think Pavlik will still have every tool he had before at 160... that said, I think Hopkins laid the blueprint for other fighters to beat the guy in the future.

So... ruined? No. Exposed? Yes.

[Kball15]

I hope he takes this loss very seriously, and becomes another De La Hoya type. A guy who, regardless of whether or not they are winning, stills draws big audiences and makes exciting fights

[larryx]

I hope he takes this loss very seriously, and becomes another De La Hoya type. A guy who, regardless of whether or not they are winning, stills draws big audiences and makes exciting fights

for the love of god no