Morales-Espadas I

[Mr. Ryan]

They didn't go in before the bell rang that is why they were complaining why the ref stopped teh fight.

And Barrera got over the right hand from Jones, but Barrera just feel in love with boxing style. Barrera was thought to be done coming into the Morales fight, he was thought of to be done when he went up agianst Hamed. Thought of to be done after Pacquiao. Barrera isn't like many fighter that guy bounces back great, he must live a good rightous life.

I'd have to watch the first fight again, it really was nuts the whole situation. Still I thought Barrera was in trouble and it would be better to come back and fight another day. His legs were gone.

We've seen Barrera descend into a four-corners kind of offense that has mixed results. You remember in the second fight with Morales he wasn't doing anything for the first 6 rounds or so and digging himself into a hole on the cards. He was trying to box too much against a long opponent determined to not give up his height.

Similar to Junior Jones' situation. Jones was keeping him at bay with straight punches and working Barrera's body as well. Barrera wasn't able to close the distance and get inside late in the fight and whenever he came in he would get hit with the right (and surprisingly, he was able to nullify Jones' jab for the most part.)

Those lanky guys will always give you trouble, especially at those lighter divisions.

[Fox McCloud]

Elaborate please. I don't know what you are referring to.

My bad D. I was actually talkin about the wrong fight. I was referring to an altercation that took place in the ring after one of Erik's fights that he had instigated, but I don't think it was this one. But keepin on the topic I always thought Guty got slighted by the judges 1st time, but EM put it on him in the rematch.

I think you are referring to the Fernando Velardez fight...

He KO'd him in 5 and then stood over him with his glove up to get his picture taken.

I did find out the reason that happened.

He fought Erik's little brother, Diego Morales in Tijuana, and I guess Velardez acted like a **** down there. Then, on top of that, Diego Morales knocked Velardez down 4 times, but lost because he corner entered the ring before the round ended, so he got a DQ on his record.

Whether it was an accident, or a situation like Jones-Barrera I, I don't know.

I'd have to watch the first fight again, it really was nuts the whole situation. Still I thought Barrera was in trouble and it would be better to come back and fight another day. His legs were gone.

We've seen Barrera descend into a four-corners kind of offense that has mixed results. You remember in the second fight with Morales he wasn't doing anything for the first 6 rounds or so and digging himself into a hole on the cards. He was trying to box too much against a long opponent determined to not give up his height.

Similar to Junior Jones' situation. Jones was keeping him at bay with straight punches and working Barrera's body as well. Barrera wasn't able to close the distance and get inside late in the fight and whenever he came in he would get hit with the right (and surprisingly, he was able to nullify Jones' jab for the most part.)

Those lanky guys will always give you trouble, especially at those lighter divisions.

You know the most shocking thing of the Jones-Barrera fights? The fact that a really strong puncher in Barrera was not able to crack Jones's extremely fragile chin.

[Mr. Ryan]

You know the most shocking thing of the Jones-Barrera fights? The fact that a really strong puncher in Barrera was not able to crack Jones's extremely fragile chin.

I never considered Barrera a huge puncher. He was an accurate puncher who threw very effective shots but he wasn't like Wilfredo Gomez or Sandy Saddler.

I think Jones' poor punch resistance has more to do with his stamina. He was very sloppy and wasted a lot of energy that by the fourth or fifth rounds of most of his fights, he was useless. He'd always start strong and then fall apart, like in the Johnson fight.

Barrera was landing the right hand a lot against Jones but keep in mind, his right hand has never been his money punch. He's a left-handed converted southpaw ala Oscar de la Hoya and Gerry Cooney and wasn't able to get in those cracking hooks upstairs.

Jones came in shape for those fights and won on will.

[ferocity]

I think you are referring to the Fernando Velardez fight...

He KO'd him in 5 and then stood over him with his glove up to get his picture taken.

I did find out the reason that happened.

He fought Erik's little brother, Diego Morales in Tijuana, and I guess Velardez acted like a **** down there. Then, on top of that, Diego Morales knocked Velardez down 4 times, but lost because he corner entered the ring before the round ended, so he got a DQ on his record.

Whether it was an accident, or a situation like Jones-Barrera I, I don't know.



You know the most shocking thing of the Jones-Barrera fights? The fact that a really strong puncher in Barrera was not able to crack Jones's extremely fragile chin.

I don't belive that **** about Verlardez. Bobby Boy(Verlardez) was a cool person all the times i seen him fight he never acted bad towards his opponet. Now, his dad or his brothers thats a differnet story. But Bobby Boy was a good guy, he is the real Rocky Balboa story. The guy was brought in to lose so many times that he'd shock the annoucers and then starting wining a buch of fight and finally got a title shot unfortunatly he had to fight a truly great fighter in Morales for a title.