Morales-Espadas I

[Mr. Ryan]

I like to say before there was Erik Morales, before Juan Manuel Marquez, there was "Marco Antonio Barrera." Everybody thought he'd be the next Chavez, people were sure he would never lose anytime soon. I really disliked the fact that Barrera changed his style after the Jones fight. But reality is because of this change he last a long time in boxing.

But when Barrera lost the 2nd time and took 1 year off, that was all the oppertunity Morales needed to capture all of Barreras fans and hearts of all boxing fans. Morales took over where Barrera left off. Thats how it happened. I know people have asked, "how did Morales becomes so popular" a warrior like Barrera was absent many of us weren't sure if he was going to return as he also talked about going back to school and studying to be a lawyer.

The thing that bothers me about the 1st Jones fight is that people act like Barreras corner threw the towel and that wasn't so. The ref that night was an amature, he didn't know what to do in the scuffle. But the bell had rang and Jones was still attacking and the ref was just looking untill Barreras corner came in. Then the ref waved the fight cause he didn't know what to do but he sees Jones celebrating. I thought Barrera won the 2nd time around but it was a ****** fight he fought.

I actually liked the way he fought in the second Jones fight, I thought up until the second half of the fight it was all him all the way. Barrera was boxing and brawling equally well until the second half when Jones surprisingly had more stamina than Barrera.

I also think that the memory of that one right hand was embedded in Barrera's mind and he was afraid of walking into it again. Jones won that fight because he wanted it more in crunch time.

In regards to the first fight with Jones, from what I saw Barrera's corner came in before the bell ended and that constitutes a DQ. I felt that cheapened the event itself since it was a clean TKO but the right man won.

[-Hyperion-]

I actually liked the way he fought in the second Jones fight, I thought up until the second half of the fight it was all him all the way. Barrera was boxing and brawling equally well until the second half when Jones surprisingly had more stamina than Barrera.

I also think that the memory of that one right hand was embedded in Barrera's mind and he was afraid of walking into it again. Jones won that fight because he wanted it more in crunch time.

In regards to the first fight with Jones, from what I saw Barrera's corner came in before the bell ended and that constitutes a DQ. I felt that cheapened the event itself since it was a clean TKO but the right man won.

barrera won the second fight...i cant see how jones wo more rounds, i reallly cant......youd have to be biased and give him ALL the close rounds...otherwise, i agree with your post.....

[MANGLER]

Erik just did some shady **** afterwards.

[Fox McCloud]

There was one moment, and I think it was in the twelfth round that sticks out in my mind. Morales threw a jab and Espadas dropped a right hand over it and it looked like he had lost his footing for a moment after it. Espadas never followed up on it but it was the most eye-catching moment of the fight.

Morales won that fight IMO but I have to say that at that point and the Chi fight that followed, I thought Morales was on his way out. He had just given so much so early in his career.

I will always say though, Barrera was much more the better fighter than Morales was.

Yeah, I do remember the big punch in the 12th... and after that, Morales ran without punching. That did probably stick in people's minds.

I actually liked the way he fought in the second Jones fight, I thought up until the second half of the fight it was all him all the way. Barrera was boxing and brawling equally well until the second half when Jones surprisingly had more stamina than Barrera.

I also think that the memory of that one right hand was embedded in Barrera's mind and he was afraid of walking into it again. Jones won that fight because he wanted it more in crunch time.

In regards to the first fight with Jones, from what I saw Barrera's corner came in before the bell ended and that constitutes a DQ. I felt that cheapened the event itself since it was a clean TKO but the right man won.

I don't think they were coming in for TKO purposes. The first thing they did was throw water at Junior Jones, and I took that as anger because he was still punching after the bell. Not sure if it would have mattered had the next round started, but... I don't think his corner was trying to stop the fight.

Erik just did some shady **** afterwards.

Elaborate please. I don't know what you are referring to.

[Mr. Ryan]

Yeah, I do remember the big punch in the 12th... and after that, Morales ran without punching. That did probably stick in people's minds.



I don't think they were coming in for TKO purposes. The first thing they did was throw water at Junior Jones, and I took that as anger because he was still punching after the bell. Not sure if it would have mattered had the next round started, but... I don't think his corner was trying to stop the fight.



Elaborate please. I don't know what you are referring to.

If they weren't stepping in to stop the fight, it probably would have been a good idea because Barrera was done. You could have given him 7 minutes to recover, he'd still be f-----.

Still, if you enter the ring before the bell is rung, you lose by disqualification.

[Mr. Ryan]

barrera won the second fight...i cant see how jones wo more rounds, i reallly cant......youd have to be biased and give him ALL the close rounds...otherwise, i agree with your post.....

I really can't see how you can give Barrera more rounds. He was winning early then went into a defensive shell down the stretch. You can't give away the late rounds and win a decision. Ask Oscar, he knows about that.

Maybe the judges were crooked. Call up the commission and let me know what they say.

[Mr. Ryan]

I really can't see how you can give Barrera more rounds. He was winning early then went into a defensive shell down the stretch. You can't give away the late rounds and win a decision. Ask Oscar, he knows about that.

Maybe the judges were crooked. Call up the commission and let me know what they say.

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[warp1432]

seriously i probably love barreras style more than morales' , but ill always hate barrera for being a *****.....

Truer words have never been spoken. I agree 100%. I love watching Barrera, but goddamn is he a *****.

[ferocity]

I actually liked the way he fought in the second Jones fight, I thought up until the second half of the fight it was all him all the way. Barrera was boxing and brawling equally well until the second half when Jones surprisingly had more stamina than Barrera.

I also think that the memory of that one right hand was embedded in Barrera's mind and he was afraid of walking into it again. Jones won that fight because he wanted it more in crunch time.

In regards to the first fight with Jones, from what I saw Barrera's corner came in before the bell ended and that constitutes a DQ. I felt that cheapened the event itself since it was a clean TKO but the right man won.

They didn't go in before the bell rang that is why they were complaining why the ref stopped teh fight.

And Barrera got over the right hand from Jones, but Barrera just feel in love with boxing style. Barrera was thought to be done coming into the Morales fight, he was thought of to be done when he went up agianst Hamed. Thought of to be done after Pacquiao. Barrera isn't like many fighter that guy bounces back great, he must live a good rightous life.

[MANGLER]

Elaborate please. I don't know what you are referring to.[/QUOTE]


My bad D. I was actually talkin about the wrong fight. I was referring to an altercation that took place in the ring after one of Erik's fights that he had instigated, but I don't think it was this one. But keepin on the topic I always thought Guty got slighted by the judges 1st time, but EM put it on him in the rematch.