Measured Against All Time - Joe Calzaghe

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  • darkman
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    #31
    Pretty cool article. Although I do disagree with some key points. First off PLEASE DONT COMPARE Rocky Marciano with Joe. They should not be in the same sentence. It does a disservice to the legacy of Marciano. This guy had the balls to compare The win of Marciano over Joe louis, to the win of Joe over Eubank. That was laughable. NOT EVEN CLOSE. He should be punched for saying that. Also Joe being the first to dominate Hopkins in the second half of the fight! ARE YOU KIDDING ME. Did this guy even watch the fight. Slap puching somebody in the shoulders and arms is not exactly dominating. More than half of the press row in the fight had Hopkins winning that fight but most importantly MOST PEOPLE AND BOXERS THOUGHT HOPKINS WON THAT FIGHT. At the end of the day Joe is a good fighter. I would even go as far as to call him a great fighter, but to call him one of the all time greats is reaching too far. He just never faced legitimate opposition when he could have. If he would have I'm sure his record would not be undefeated. Marciano fought the best and beat them, even more he fought legends and beat them. Marciano fought in an era that was MUCH MORE TOUGHER than Joe would ever dream off. Or should I say dread. Again great fighter of his era BUT NEVER AN ALL TIME GREAT.

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    • Testdead
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      #32
      Good article.

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      • crold1
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        #33
        Originally posted by tyde13
        roy did....but it had been done before to him......

        much respect to calzaghe, but i cannot rank him higher than jones or hopkins on an ATG list, and he has victories over both......
        Not saying I'd argue he is/was. I think each has the right to make that claim on their own merits without arguing one better than the other. That's for all of you; I have my take too.

        As to the post above...I wasn't comparing the Louis and Eubank wins. I was comparing when they occurred in each man's career. Also, I wasn't dissing Rock's big wins. Just contrasting the short window he operated in versus the longer one for Joe.

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        • S A M U R A I
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          #34
          Originally posted by darkman
          Pretty cool article. Although I do disagree with some key points. First off PLEASE DONT COMPARE Rocky Marciano with Joe. They should not be in the same sentence. It does a disservice to the legacy of Marciano. This guy had the balls to compare The win of Marciano over Joe louis, to the win of Joe over Eubank. That was laughable. NOT EVEN CLOSE. He should be punched for saying that. Also Joe being the first to dominate Hopkins in the second half of the fight! ARE YOU KIDDING ME. Did this guy even watch the fight. Slap puching somebody in the shoulders and arms is not exactly dominating. More than half of the press row in the fight had Hopkins winning that fight but most importantly MOST PEOPLE AND BOXERS THOUGHT HOPKINS WON THAT FIGHT. At the end of the day Joe is a good fighter. I would even go as far as to call him a great fighter, but to call him one of the all time greats is reaching too far. He just never faced legitimate opposition when he could have. If he would have I'm sure his record would not be undefeated. Marciano fought the best and beat them, even more he fought legends and beat them. Marciano fought in an era that was MUCH MORE TOUGHER than Joe would ever dream off. Or should I say dread. Again great fighter of his era BUT NEVER AN ALL TIME GREAT.
          Bull****. Total BS.



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          • crold1
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            #35
            Originally posted by Silencers
            Good read.

            I thought Alvarez' title was not on the line in the second Lopez fight.
            It wasn't for Alvarez but Lopez was allowed to pick it up when the ever dependable Alvarez missed weight by a couple divisions or so.

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            • fightnews55
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              #36
              I stopped reading when this moron said Calzaghe is the only man to dominate Hopkins over the 2nd half of a fight. What a joke. Just another Calzaghe butt liker grabbing at straws. Calzaghe needs to get in a real fight.

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              • crold1
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                #37
                Originally posted by fightnews55
                I stopped reading when this moron said Calzaghe is the only man to dominate Hopkins over the 2nd half of a fight. What a joke. Just another Calzaghe butt liker grabbing at straws. Calzaghe needs to get in a real fight.

                http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t...CVbpmgX-4Pf93Q
                Wouldn't it be butt licker? Just saying...

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                • Brandish
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                  #38
                  I stopped reading when this moron said Calzaghe is the only man to dominate Hopkins over the 2nd half of a fight. What a joke. Just another Calzaghe butt liker grabbing at straws. Calzaghe needs to get in a real fight
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                  great post.. calslappy is the biuggest joke in boxing right now, he thinks he can come over here and get a gift against a 43 year old man and a shot roy and proclaim himself as some atg when he hasn't even faced a legitimate active champ at 175"peeleft: tell calslappy to get his ***** ass in the ring with the real 175 champ in dawson

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                  • edgarg
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by The Cully Lad
                    Calzaghe 182 cm tall
                    That's 6'1". ...Are you sure?? Calzaghe definitely looked shorter than both Hopkins and Kessler, and more of a size with Jones.

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                    • crold1
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by edgarg
                      That's 6'1". ...Are you sure?? Calzaghe definitely looked shorter than both Hopkins and Kessler, and more of a size with Jones.
                      The fight program said 6'1 last weekend. Other sources, 5'11. I've stood next to him and he's got me by two inches or so and I'm 5'10/5'11. MAybe it's in the shoes. LOL

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