Who will be the REAL DEAL @ 154 Next Year??

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  • Vasyl’s dad
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    #51
    I like nothing more than Kirklands fiery style. His speed and power could be problems for a long time. He probably won't ever be a defensive master, and he'll probably taste more of the canvas, but he reminds me somewhat of a larger Shane Mosley.

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    • Slotff
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      #52
      Originally posted by Sox8055
      JJC JR ranked b4 Kirk???
      JJC has WAAAAAAAAAAAAY more experience, Kirkland is a nice prospect and could very well beat JJC but he has done **** all. So he blew out Eromosele Albert in one round, what has he done besides that? Gotten rocked by Allen Conyers, looked unimpressive against Angulo's leftovers in Ricardo Cortes, got stunned two or three times times against Mohammad Said and got hurt and won a close UD over Ossie Duran. People have Kirkland WAAAAAAAAAAY too high up on their lists.

      Wins over Vanda (x2), and KO's over Wiley, Loriga, Celaya and Sanchez are more impressive than anything I have seen from Kirkland. People rate him so highly because it is a knee jerk reaction they get when they see this guy who fights like a beast and comes straight forward.

      I would pick Kirkland to beat JJC JR btw, but what has he done to be ranked above him? I love watching Kirkland fight, extremely exciting, and has TONS of power no doubt, but Chavez has more wins, more fights and more star power=higher ranking.
      Last edited by Slotff; 11-12-2008, 01:02 AM.

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      • Slotff
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        #53
        Originally posted by Dice
        People actually think that he would ko Mayorga, like get real, Angulo aint no Mosley/De La Hoya
        Thats disgusting that people think that could happen. If Angulo wants to get a brain injury he should take that fight. Sure, he looked like an elite fighter against Tsurkan, and he may very well become one, but not yet, not after 14 fights. Mayorga just last month gave Shane Mosley all sorts of problems.

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        • VanesBoxing
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          #54
          Originally posted by Slotff
          Thats disgusting that people think that could happen. If Angulo wants to get a brain injury he should take that fight. Sure, he looked like an elite fighter against Tsurkan, and he may very well become one, but not yet, not after 14 fights. Mayorga just last month gave Shane Mosley all sorts of problems.
          how do you see Vanes goin up against Baldomir sometime late next year??

          i think he needs somethin like this in the near future, dont you think?

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          • Dice
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            #55
            Originally posted by VanesBoxing
            how do you see Vanes goin up against Baldomir sometime late next year??

            i think he needs somethin like this in the near future, dont you think?
            In the past I would have said that Baldomir would beat Vanes, but as terrible as Baldo has looked in his last fights and since he doesnt really have knockout power, I think Vanes would outbox him and finally punch his ticket from prospect to contender.

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              #56
              Paul Williams

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              • Dice
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                #57
                Originally posted by Flawless 2
                Paul Williams
                Paul is gonna decapitate Verno Philips and the blood is gonna get on our shirts from the nose bleeds seats

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                • ferocity
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                  #58
                  They'll all have to be wary of Santos and the guy that beat Santos a few years ago who also has a title at 154. The weakest Champion right now is Vernon Forest -imo age has caught up to him.

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                    #59
                    Paul Williams beats the **** out of Vanes and the rest of the 154 pounders.

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                    • Dice
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by ferocity
                      They'll all have to be wary of Santos and the guy that beat Santos a few years ago who also has a title at 154. The weakest Champion right now is Vernon Forest -imo age has caught up to him.
                      Are you nuts??? Vernon Forrest is the best champ at 154, when he's on, not many in any division can beat him and he proved that in the Mora rematch when he pounded him out. Verno Philips got a complete gift against Spinks and shouldnt be champ. Daniel Santos is vastly underrated tho and its interesting to see how 154 plays out especially with Carlos Quintana arriving

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