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Prime Roy Jones Jr did not use the fundamentals of boxing

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  • #11
    Originally posted by larryx View Post
    maybe People Can Understand Why Floyd Retired Now
    Maybe, But Floyd Had At Least 4 Great Yrs Left. He Could Have Done Alot More Man.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by SnoopySmurf View Post
      He didn't have to. His reflex and speed were phenominal.

      But once he got slower, he was beatable. His record in the last 5 fights shows that.

      No jabs, rarely keeps his gloves up. He's still relying on his reflex to avoid punches. He rarely ducks punches. He flinches away. That's fine...but he can't always do that especially when he's slower nowadays. His hands are still too low. He's relying on his quickness to connect and doesn't bother trying to hide his right cross with jabs.

      Honestly, though, he still would not have beaten Joe Calzaghe last weekend.
      Very good post. He was not getting his punches off in time to hit Calzaghe many of the times. The reflexes were not there this weekend. I believe you may be right on the money here.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Melly-Mel View Post
        Maybe, But Floyd Had At Least 4 Great Yrs Left. He Could Have Done Alot More Man.
        thats a big maybe!!!why risk it???

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        • #14
          yep, now that his old and his body just can't change to a differrent style, he's ****ed

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          • #15
            I think midway through the fight, RJJ landed only 4 jabs on Joe Calzaghe.

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            • #16
              At first glance of Roy, it seems he had a lot of weaknesses. But he used his amazing natural abilities to create an "invisible defense" to cover those weaknesses. It's a very risky thing to try but he was the master of it.

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              • #17
                completely agree, Naz was the same (although not on the same level as RJJ)

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                • #18
                  Jones wasn't a fundamental boxer, he relied a lot on speed and reflexes although he has a very good jab but he just doesn't use it much.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Melly-Mel View Post
                    Maybe, But Floyd Had At Least 4 Great Yrs Left. He Could Have Done Alot More Man.
                    Yea, I think Floyd would have aged well. He was so technically sound, he would have been closer to Hopkins than RJJ I think. He had great reflexes, but would have still been a great defensive fighter with regressed reflexes.

                    And the thing is, he would have still been learning. He was such a smart fighter, he'd adjust to being old, and he'd do it better than anyone not named B-Hop.

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                    • #20
                      Mayweather definitely uses the fundamentals of boxing. He doesn't jab that much but he's so accurate anyway that he'll sneak in a jab or move somewhere to disrupt his opponent's timing. He's quick and has the fundamentals. He and Ray Leonard were blessed with these twitch muscles and were fundamentally trained that they'll keep their brain cells intact.

                      Ali should have retired after his third fight with Frazier.

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