Lets just CLear something up, RJJ wouldnt have had any trouble with CALZAGHE...

[Hous]

How are you guys saying Calzaghe wouldnt give Jones any trouble 10 years ago? Thats ridiculous, Jones is and always has been one of my favorite boxers of all time. I know Calzaghe would give Jones a hard time, and possibly beat him. It would be a competitive fight.

[Underdog82]

...10 years ago.

Can we all agree on that?

Not only would RJJ have had trouble with calzaghe, he would of lost, even 10 years ago. He looked bad not because he was really washed up as you would claim, but because Calzaghe is to much for him.

I didn't see him look old and washed up against trinidad... That was how long ago? 10 months ago? lol

So he went from a still competitive fighter to a washed up bum in 10 months. I don't think so...

I don't see any difference in the outcome if it were 10 or or 15 years ago.

Calzaghe owns jones at any age.

[Hous]

Not only would RJJ have had trouble with calzaghe, he would of lost, even 10 years ago. He looked bad not because he was really washed up as you would claim, but because Calzaghe is to much for him.

I didn't see him look old and washed up against trinidad... That was how long ago? 10 months ago? lol

So he went from a still competitive fighter to a washed up bum in 10 months. I don't think so...

I don't see any difference in the outcome if it were 10 or or 15 years ago.

Calzaghe owns jones at any age.

I wouldnt be surprised if a Prime Calzaghe beat a Prime Jones, I would predict a Prime Jones myself though in a close odds fight. However, Calzaghe wouldn't be able to have his hands at his side against a prime Jones. That was foolish even if he couldnt see from 1 eye. We all saw what Jones did to Toney.

I think Jones would edge Calzaghe if both were in their primes.

[Kball15]

So why didn't they do it back then?

They had bigger names in the sport.

Roy nor Bernard chose to fight Joe.

Why is that a slight on Joe?

other way around bud. Calzaghe refused to leave europe for the better part of a decade

[Vasyl’s dad]

other way around bud. Calzaghe refused to leave europe for the better part of a decade

Bernard has left once if I recall correctly.

Roy Jones has refused to leave america for an entire career, as do most high profile american fighters.


Double standard much?

[Pride Of Arkans]

Lets clear something up the thread started is a ****
and he has no idea what he's talking about.

[BKM-]

Ok, so the thread starter may have exaggerated a little(probably because the man has been very annoyed by the fanboys' party post fight) but some of you really need to educate yourselves a bit before you BLINDLY make bold comments.

JC would fall short against younger versions of RJJ and Hopkins(against this guy he'd get beaten 'without any trouble' being that he couldn't beat him at 43. Terrible style for Joe. He'd do better against RJJ.) I agree with that.

I said before the fight that if Roy doesn't have his legs anymore, he will definitely lose. Turns out that it was absolutely the case, and much more than that too. I should have watched his 3 fights before this one.

In his prime, Roy didn't just have ACCURACY and punches in bunches, he had extremely explosive legs that enabled him to have this great defense, could get into positions very quickly to capatilize on his opponents' mistakes, get himself out of corners with ease(even against Tarver he was seen doing this) get away with leaping hooks, his stamina was excellent, and most importantly, he had that mental edge and killer instinct.

Lets say he fought this version of Joe while he was 10 years younger. Calzaghe would get caught with a lot more unseen flush shots like he did from a near 40 year old man last night in the first round. His WIIIIDEEE looping shots, albeit quick, would hit nothing but air against Roys freakishly athletic ability to avoid punches. And like I mentioned earlier, it was impossible for anyone to to just load up on shots on Jones while having arms low like Joe did last night. Jones would actually get out of corners with a long leading jab, a quick long step shooting himself across the ring, out of the corner. OR, he would actually fight himself out of the ropes. You really have to watch more vintage Jones fights to see what i'm talking about here. I think some of you really forgot what he was about.

Yes, Calzaghe gave a great performance and beat him convincingly, but his fighting game was full of holes, like usual. I mean, at times he was blatantly just ****ing around in there, throwing combo's while Jones was on the ropes, and with him not thinking of defense at all while doing his fruity little movements..erm, 'showboating'. Don't get the wrong impression, take away all of the showboating nonsense, and just watch the fighting aspect of it, and it becomes clear that in their primes, Jones would have won with ease.

But I guess you won't get popular by saying it at a time like this. Don't mind it, act intelligent and explain it to them from a boxing point of view. Works every time.

[pesticid]

At the same time there's a lot of criticism leveled at Calzaghe that none of his opposition is "good" despite them filling the criteria you listed above. Not by you though. No ****.

Roy had more trouble with southpaws than with orthodox fighters, I think that's safe to assume.

Then again who doesn't?

Bhop prior to fighting the Italian Dragon

[bsrizpac]

Bernard has left once if I recall correctly.

Roy Jones has refused to leave america for an entire career, as do most high profile american fighters.


Double standard much?

Name one thing Calzaghe did in his Career in his backyard that meant that Bernard or roy should have gone to him. Anything.

Defending the IBO belt? LOL. In the 90's that was hardly a legitimate belt.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Name one thing Calzaghe did in his Career in his backyard that meant that Bernard or roy should have gone to him. Anything.

Defending the IBO belt? LOL. In the 90's that was hardly a legitimate belt.

Maintain an undefeated record while piling up over 20 defenses of his title is all.

Not much really.