Lets just CLear something up, RJJ wouldnt have had any trouble with CALZAGHE...

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  • Mud
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    #41
    Originally posted by K-Nan
    Calzaghe might not be at his absolute peak, but he was still fresher than Jones- who proved to be absolutely over the hill. And STILL.. Roy was able to get that straight right in. A straight right that looked much, much less fast and accurate than it did in his prime. Imagine what Roy would have done to Joe had he been in his best form. It would have been an easy night.
    Did you see the massive uppercut Jones landed later on? If you look at many of Calzaghe fights he has taken some very big shots, nevr been in serious trouble.
    He is 37, and would have taken the ounch from Jones in the 1st better if he was younger.


    Originally posted by K-Nan
    They weren't on Joe's level at all, but they were still title holders and number one contenders. Thats at least "good", in my book.

    And the point of that post was to dispel the "any southpaw gives Roy trouble" stuff that people seem to focus on. He obviously deals with them easily more than not.
    You forget Tarver and Griffin. Even Harmon gave him problems.
    None of those fighters have the skill, speed and ring generalship of Calzaghe.

    Its not just about being a southpaw, but look at the full package that Calzaghe brings. And look at Jones biggest challenges and wins. It is very plausable Calzaghe would have been his toughest test when they were both at their peaks.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Mud
      Did you see the massive uppercut Jones landed later on? If you look at many of Calzaghe fights he has taken some very big shots, nevr been in serious trouble.
      He is 37, and would have taken the ounch from Jones in the 1st better if he was younger.




      You forget Tarver and Griffin. Even Harmon gave him problems.
      None of those fighters have the skill, speed and ring generalship of Calzaghe.

      Its not just about being a southpaw, but look at the full package that Calzaghe brings. And look at Jones biggest challenges and wins. It is very plausable Calzaghe would have been his toughest test when they were both at their peaks.

      No dude, you just don't get it. Roy Jones Jr. is the only fighter in the history of boxing who was unbeatable in his prime.

      The ONLY one.


      At least thats what Jones stans would like you to believe.


      Prime Jones KO1 God, Allah, etc.

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      • K-Nan
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        #43
        Originally posted by Mud
        Did you see the massive uppercut Jones landed later on? If you look at many of Calzaghe fights he has taken some very big shots, nevr been in serious trouble.
        He is 37, and would have taken the ounch from Jones in the 1st better if he was younger.




        You forget Tarver and Griffin. Even Harmon gave him problems.
        None of those fighters have the skill, speed and ring generalship of Calzaghe.

        Its not just about being a southpaw, but look at the full package that Calzaghe brings. And look at Jones biggest challenges and wins. It is very plausable Calzaghe would have been his toughest test when they were both at their peaks.
        Tarver is a different story. You probably know why.

        Griffin was not as much of a problem as people make him out to be. Roy was ahead on the cards en route to the disqualification. He had trouble figuring Griffin out, but was never seriously hurt. And the second fight, well... yeah.

        As far as taking punches- I don't deny that. I do believe that Joe would have taken them better. But what I'm arguing isn't that he'd take them better. I'm saying that he'd have gotten hit much, much more frequently. The fact that this version of Roy could even LAND such an uppercut speaks levels about how he he would have fared against Joe in a better time period.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Kball15
          ...10 years ago.

          Can we all agree on that?
          he would've had trouble, but with fresh legs and an unbroken chin, he'd have defeated Joe

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            #45
            Any trouble? Roy would have won but if Roy was having trouble with Griffin in there first fight then Joe definately could have caused problems, I'm certain it would have gone the distance. It would be the first time Roy fought a fighter with handspeed close to his.

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              #46
              prime for prime,i got Roy all the way. I don't know about a knockout, Calzaghe has shown a good chin and great recovery skills.

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                #47
                In younger days Roy woulda won. But it never happened til now and like it or not Zag won.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Kball15
                  good god

                  seriously guys, not even exaggerating, a prime roy jones gets rid of calzaghe in 4 or 5 rounds. if u can see that, then u dont know ****.

                  Same with Bernard Hopkins. Hopkins woulda gone to the cards but he would have dominated the fight in his prime.

                  go back and watch some vintage footage of these guys to see how rediculously talented they are, and then watch some Calzaghe, and then compare. ull have urself a good laugh
                  They are too high off the jones win... jones has been washed up and old... i didnt want to believe it but he wouldn't even move his legs last night.

                  prime roy jones VS a prime Calzaghe.. Jones wins and makes it look incredibly Great while doing so.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by K-Nan
                    Tarver is a different story. You probably know why.

                    Griffin was not as much of a problem as people make him out to be. Roy was ahead on the cards en route to the disqualification. He had trouble figuring Griffin out, but was never seriously hurt. And the second fight, well... yeah.

                    As far as taking punches- I don't deny that. I do believe that Joe would have taken them better. But what I'm arguing isn't that he'd take them better. I'm saying that he'd have gotten hit much, much more frequently. The fact that this version of Roy could even LAND such an uppercut speaks levels about how he he would have fared against Joe in a better time period.
                    True, Jones would of hit Calzaghe more. Thats a sure bet. Probably could of hurt him also.
                    But with fantsay matchups we can only imagine based on what we saw last night.

                    I know the fight would of been totally different in many ways, but Calzaghe would of been a tough test if he didnt get KO'd coming forward.
                    Jones would of been faster, more accurate, etc etc
                    Calzaghe would of hit harder and faster and applied the same pressure.

                    It would of been interesting.


                    I think a prime Calzaghe is better than anyone on Jones record.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by DA1CATAS
                      prime roy jones VS a prime Calzaghe.. Jones wins and makes it look incredibly Great while doing so.

                      But it never happened.

                      You can speculate all you want, but it never happened.

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