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  • WhoreUs
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    #21
    ruiz would have a decent chance against anyone.

    he's like hopkins. he'll make it ugly and boring to keep it close.

    that's why you never see ruiz get blown out.

    the only reason toney and roy beat him because since they're smaller he doesn't clinch and grab like he would other heavyweights.

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    • TheManchine
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      #22
      Originally posted by Mr._Pink
      ruiz would have a decent chance against anyone.

      he's like hopkins. he'll make it ugly and boring to keep it close.

      that's why you never see ruiz get blown out.

      the only reason toney and roy beat him because since they're smaller he doesn't clinch and grab like he would other heavyweights.
      Jay Nady is the reason Roy beat him, anytime he got close they were broken up

      Toney used steroids

      Ruiz is a hero of mine

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      • WhoreUs
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        #23
        Originally posted by kenso
        there is a point where what you do in the ring overshadows your resume, in ruiz's case it was being boring as **** and failing to impress....ever.

        im talking about vitali because vitali is still around and vitali's (call it a loss but it was more of a loss for lewis than vitali) match with lewis was more meaningful than anything ruiz ever did.
        if your talking about physical gifts , skills , etc. he can't match up to vitali and wlad.

        you're going off subject. i said match up their resumes and you start talking about how vitali looked good against lewis.

        yes vitali looked good. i liked vitali after his courageous battle with lennox. who didn't?

        the point is look at who ruiz has fought.

        toney , jones , holyfield , tua , valuev , chagaev , mccline , rahman , oquendo , golota , kirk...... that's a solid resume.

        i don't like the guy but he's fought some tough opponents.

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        • WhoreUs
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          #24
          Originally posted by hungryherbert
          Jay Nady is the reason Roy beat him, anytime he got close they were broken up

          Toney used steroids

          Ruiz is a hero of mine
          the ref is not to blame. ruiz came in with the wrong game plan and roy is too fast for him.

          john ruiz has very quick hands. that's how he catches people with solid shots right before clinching.

          those quick hands against other heavies are not so quick against toney and roy.

          btw toney doesn't need roids to beat ruiz.

          look at jirov-toney. jirov is so underrated as a cruiser...... jirov would have given ruiz hell at heavy. look at how bad he messed up an unbeaten joe mesi.

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            #25
            Originally posted by kenso
            there is a point where what you do in the ring overshadows your resume, in ruiz's case it was being boring as **** and failing to impress....ever.

            im talking about vitali because vitali is still around and vitali's (call it a loss but it was more of a loss for lewis than vitali) match with lewis was more meaningful than anything ruiz ever did.
            Like it or not Ruiz resume is awesome and he's fought everyone.

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            • Slotff
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              #26
              Originally posted by TheManchine
              He makes my top 100 greatest HW's of all time list.
              I would say he meets the top 30 or so. He has achieved a lot, and there is no way around that.

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              • TheGreatA
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                #27
                Originally posted by Slotff
                I would say he meets the top 30 or so. He has achieved a lot, and there is no way around that.
                There have been many great heavyweights in the past 120 years from the days of John L. Sullivan, Ruiz doesn't quite make top 30 as much as he has managed to achieve with his limited talent.

                tua better have made your list too , manchine.
                Tua makes the top 50 greatest HW punchers list.
                Last edited by TheGreatA; 11-07-2008, 01:53 AM.

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                • WhoreUs
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by TheManchine

                  Tua makes the top 50 greatest HW punchers list.
                  i hate finland......

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                  • TheGreatA
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                    #29
                    Prime Ruiz was a beast.




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