Can and will Joe hurt Roy?

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And can you point me to a fight where Joe has knocked the guy to the canvas and the ref didn't count because the guy was out?

Maybe..................

But I havn't seen Joe out on a Saturday night in Cardiff, so can't speak for all of his fights.

[Mr. Ryan]

Possibly, yeah. Joe's last fight, wants to go out with a **** = no need to protect hands any longer = Joe sits down on his shots and lives with the pain for half an hour.

Yes you do need to protect those hands because if they break in a fight you can't close your hands properly.

[rizkybizness]

Yes you do need to protect those hands because if they break in a fight you can't close your hands properly.

I wasnt aware Calzaghe closes his hands when he fights.

[Chase8400]

If he can hurt Kessler theres no doubt in my mind he can hurt Jones.

Plus he doesn't need to use his hands to box after this, so once he's in the later rounds (doesn't want to wreck them to early) he might go all out.

That was a ****** statement by a bias poster.

Kessler was hurt to the body, right? And he has been a SMW for his whole career.
Have you ever seen Jones hurt to the body? Nope.
He took clean, harder shots from Tito and smiled about it.
Joe does not have the power to hurt Roy, especially @ LHW. None of his punches affected Hopkins whatsoever. His workrate was the only thing.
I don't care who you are for, this fight will not end with Rjj being hurt. I gaurantee that. It will have to be a decision win for Calzaghe if he wins.

In reference to people saying that he will go all out since he is not trying to save his hands:
I hope he does. He will use more energy and still will not hurt Roy while possibly hurting his hand early and being forced to fight Jones one handed. That would be something , would'nt you say. Jones by KO/TKO if Joe hurts his hand for sure.

[Clegg]

Hey Chase, which Calzaghe fights have you seen?

[supRa]

nahh... jones gonna shapen his skills up!!!

[Chase8400]

I could bring up a million counter fights to that argument.

I'm just saying people see KO's as worse than TKO's, when neccessarily that isn't always the case.

People "jump the gun" too much on these boards.


Someone could be out cold on the floor, the ref starts counting to 5, then waves his arms. This is then scored as a TKO, so that guy doesn't have "true" knockout power. Bull****.

People should stop living off boxrec on this site.

Okay, do as the guy said earlier. Post a reference where that happened in a Calzaghe fight.

The only hard punch he landed that i can recall was the Byron Mitchell fight. Mitchell tried to gather himself and was TKO'd after that and was in no way, shape or form out cold.

[Chase8400]

Hey Chase, which Calzaghe fights have you seen?

Eubank, Mitchell , Lacy, Bika, Manfredo, Kessler and B-hop.

Part of Ashira and part of Viet II.

Whatsup?

[Clegg]

Eubank, Mitchell , Lacy, Bika, Manfredo, Kessler and B-hop.

Part of Ashira and part of Viet II.

Whatsup?

Same old, same old. Just waiting for Saturday to come around.

[Kris Silver]

That was a ****** statement by a bias poster.

Kessler was hurt to the body, right? And he has been a SMW for his whole career.
Have you ever seen Jones hurt to the body? Nope.
He took clean, harder shots from Tito and smiled about it.
Joe does not have the power to hurt Roy, especially @ LHW. None of his punches affected Hopkins whatsoever. His workrate was the only thing.
I don't care who you are for, this fight will not end with Rjj being hurt. I gaurantee that. It will have to be a decision win for Calzaghe if he wins.

In reference to people saying that he will go all out since he is not trying to save his hands:
I hope he does. He will use more energy and still will not hurt Roy while possibly hurting his hand early and being forced to fight Jones one handed. That would be something , would'nt you say. Jones by KO/TKO if Joe hurts his hand for sure.

I think you may be taking it out of context a little there. Roy is not a super human, he has normal ribs, and normal skin. Kesslers a very muscley fit young guy whom hasn't been hurt often either, to hurt him with one body shot near the liver shows Calzaghe could hurt most if not all guys in the same way if caught right. You can't expect to get hit on the liver the same pace, one fit guy in his prime is hurt, the next man nearly 40 is completely fine. Come on. Basic physics has to be factored in. It's definitely possible if he landed hard and accurate on a key spot. Likely, no, but possible.

Also, if ones saying hurt, ones not saying TKO or KO. Just hurt.