Can and will Joe hurt Roy?

[Oasis_Lad]

I definitely think he can hurt Jones.

[Mickey Gomez]

Taylor - Pavlik I, would you say that was a genuine KO.

Well it was scored as a TKO.

TKO means no need for a count, worse than a KO.

And can you point me to a fight where Joe has knocked the guy to the canvas and the ref didn't count because the guy was out?

[S A M U R A I]

I've actually been to 6 of Joe's fights I've seen that pop up close. But he does not have nor did he ever have true knock out power. Joe throws fast punches, he occasionally forgoes technique for volume but he does not knock people out. Statistics back this up, he has only had 2 actual knock outs in his 45 fights, the rest were stoppages or decisions.

I agree, he doesn't have 1-punch KO power, it's all down to accumulation. Joe wears a fighter down and eventually they stop throwing anything back. This has happened in a lot of the JC fights I've seen (I've seen all but maybe 3 or 4). Regardless, he can hurt opponents.



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[Kris Silver]

Even if a guy does not have much natural power, if he puts his bodyweight behind a punch then he can hurt you.

I don't think Calzaghe will get much chance to do that, because the more you sit down on your punches, the more open you are to counters, but hypothetically speaking, if Roy was to drop his hands and let Joe hit him, it would hurt.

Pretty difficult to argue with this really.

Put aside the people and look it from a more logical, physical way and it's obvious he could.

He hurt Kessler with one body shot. It's not as unlikely as people may think, and he may well protect his hands less, late on. We'll have to see though as when he was close to TKOing Lacy Enzo didn't exactly tell him to let rip for some reason, possibly the hands and just not being caught. Joe does ignore him sometimes but not much.

[daggum]

I dunno about that. How about Joe-Manfredo? That was a TKO right?

brutal ko don't remind me of that one

[-----------]

I dunno about that. How about Joe-Manfredo? That was a TKO right?

I could bring up a million counter fights to that argument.

I'm just saying people see KO's as worse than TKO's, when neccessarily that isn't always the case.

People "jump the gun" too much on these boards.


Someone could be out cold on the floor, the ref starts counting to 5, then waves his arms. This is then scored as a TKO, so that guy doesn't have "true" knockout power. Bull****.

People should stop living off boxrec on this site.

[Shadow boxer 3]

calzaghe hits like a girl. those slaps may hurt at SMW, but they wont hurt a true LHW. espacially one who has been all the way up to heavyweight before

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[ACHlLLES]

Possibly, yeah. Joe's last fight, wants to go out with a **** = no need to protect hands any longer = Joe sits down on his shots and lives with the pain for half an hour.

For an half and hour? Thats probably when it's most painful after the fight, but I bet you it could be hurting somewhat for weeks if he goes all out.

[S A M U R A I]

For an half and hour? Thats probably when it's most painful after the fight, but I bet you it could be hurting somewhat for weeks if he goes all out.

No doubt. I'm sure you caught my meaning.



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