The USA-UK/British "Rivalry"

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Some of you should aspire to be like these two guys when you grow up....

Coming from the guy who's written a "na na na we're better than you" thread.

[Dynamite Kid]

You can thank Calzaghe's latest bull**** for the following...

I have a few things to say concerning the so called U.S.A.-U.K. "rivalry" in Boxing....

The ONLY reason it even exists is due to the actions of the U.K. fans...predominantly the British ones....why?....because the U.K./British Boxing scene basically doesn't occur to the American Boxing scene as rivals or competition...and as The History of Boxing tells us...for the most part, they are NOT in our league and SHOULDN'T occur to us as such. In other words....we have every right to NOT be concerned with them...and believe me...they wouldn't be concerned with us if the roles were reversed.

This genuine and warranted lack of acknowledgement of them as a threat makes their blood BOIL...which is totally understandable. To be honest...I have sympathy for them....as being in that position must really, REALLY suck....knowing they can't compare to us and having to run around screaming for accolades and attention....and when they do that enough...acting a fool and touting their fighters to the extreme ENOUGH...we, the American Boxing fans and our prime fighters, fight their sparks with fire and remind them of exactly where they and their best fighters truly stand....

That being said...I totally understand and advocate them competing in general...being competitive is an essential quality to have when wanting to gain recognition and/or success...but I'm saying that THEY are the ones who start all this nonsense and bring out our bad sides with their overly nationalistic and obnoxious points of view....that....along with their blind bias, envy, and overall insecurity towards America is pretty much what fuels this feud and makes us act accordingly....but like I said....this really isn't a "feud"...it's more like a complete and utter mismatch.

It's almost like a barracuda going after a Great White Shark...which you would rarely, and probably never, see...because the barracuda knows the Great White can easily swing around and rip it to shreds at any given moment....you see...the barracuda, unlike the insane fans I'm referring to, KNOWS its role and is fine with it...it gets its food and respect here and there...but it wouldn't DARE attack something it innately recognizes as considerably bigger and better....

So I pose the question..."Why?"...why waste your time and energy acting this way? Why do you peck at The Sleeping Giant's feet? Do you not know that America historically AND presently owns you?...and if you DO know this....why are you fighting the feeling?...it would be much easier for you and better for your reputation if you just accepted it...because no matter what you and your fighters EVER say or do....England, or ANY other country for that matter, will NEVER replace The United States as THE Mecca AND Standard of Boxing Greatness.

Now...I know what I've just typed is going to upset some of you...but I am merely speaking the truth from the heart...and believe it or not...I am only trying to help you and the Boxing community become a better place....

I often think of how wonderful it would be if more U.S. and British fans could coexist without all the bull**** and rationally assess Boxing and the fighters together....


Sincerely,
SKULLSPLITTER - The CEO

a lot of what you said is true but you come across exactly the same as the people you are ranting about IGNORANT believe it or not we are not all nationalistic and unrealistic about British fighters credentials

BTW its a shame you did not have the balls to say this in your original account cause its obvious by your post that you frequent this forum on a regular basis otherwise how would you be able to come to a conlusion about the behaviour of some of the Brits on THIS site

you son are just as ignorant as the Brits you are talking about,those same Brits wind me up with thier national bias but you have just proven you are no better and that you get just as exasperated as them why else would you make this ranting thread otherwise

check my sig we are not all Biased Brits you know

[Dirk Diggler UK]

The Normans were Norsemen who conquered Normandy, not Frenchmen.

England never needed a born and bred Argentinian to score the winning goal for them in a final. France did.

Ive heard you say that a couple of times but Im not sure who you're on about?

Trezeguet scored the winner in Euro 2000. Hes not Argentine at all, probably Algerian like a lot of the French team were including Zidane.

[TheGreatAli]

There is no rivalry.

[Dynamite Kid]

Ive heard you say that a couple of times but Im not sure who you're on about?

Trezeguet scored the winner in Euro 2000. Hes not Argentine at all, probably Algerian like a lot of the French team were including Zidane.

Trezeguet is an Argie and so is Camronesi

[Kid McCoy]

Ive heard you say that a couple of times but Im not sure who you're on about?

Trezeguet scored the winner in Euro 2000. Hes not Argentine at all, probably Algerian like a lot of the French team were including Zidane.

Trezeguet was born in Buenos Aires to Argentinian parents. He grew up there, and that's where he made his professional debut.

[bsrizpac]

I meant time period rather than that exact time. Although Ive heard Bernard Hopkins was the best middleweight when Roy fought him on these forums....cough cough.

Mason was undefeated with a crazy KO % although against relative nobodies. He started as a slight favourite against Lennox if I remember correctly.

I understood what you meant but that's really stretching it. Lennox was not considered a consensus top flight heavyweight until at LEAST 92. Bruno fought Tyson in March 1989. Time period vs. the time Tyson fought him is beyond stretching it. If you want to make an argument against the second Bruno fight have at it, but you were clearly talking about that 1st Bruno fight when you mentioned he almost "exposed" Tyson.

As I recall he was on the receiving end of a horrific TKO against the ropes at the end of that fight. That he staggered Tyson twice in round one doesn't really mean much. If you look at what was going on in Tyson's life at that time it's no shock. Didn't exactly take the sport or his training seriously after the Spinks fight (especially not from 88-90). But in any case saying Lewis was the best at that "time period" is really twisting the facts to suit what you are saying.

At that time if Bruno wasn't the best he certainly was top 3 of Britain's heavyweights.

[kevtwin]

Speaking of healthy....how are Hatton, Witter, and Khan feeling?

Yeah.

There IS no competition....

You are Ricky Gervais and i claim my prize!

[El Jesus]

my experiance with the english is that they care for about 10 minutes, have a drink, then forget they even cared.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Trezeguet was born in Buenos Aires to Argentinian parents. He grew up there, and that's where he made his professional debut.

I stand corrected then. He doesnt look very Argieish.