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  • #71
    here's a question, if not Vic then who replaces mijares? Or does he keep his spot despite his lose?

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
      actually yeah, it is.

      margarito got on it for beating cotto. cotto got on it for beating mosley. calzaghe got on it for beating lacy. hatton got on it for beating tszyu. etc...
      Did Cotto get KTFO a few fights before beating Mosley? What, he didn't? That's right he was putting together a pretty impressive run of wins together as a dominant 140 pound champ before moving up and beating Judah for the WBA belt at 147, THEN he beat Mosley.

      Margarito is a little bit more of a questionable one however he did hold wins over top contenders in a stacked WW division and his recent loss to Williams was a very close fight. He also beat a Cotto who was held in significanlty higher regard than Mijares.

      Calzaghe got on the list for beating Lacy? The decade-long run as the WBO SMW champ didn't factor into that equation?

      You guys don't seem to understand, Vic got dominated and KTFO by a fighter who was far from an elite guy only just over a year ago. Beating a guy ranked in the lower half of the list doesn't put you in the top ten in the sport p4p under those circumstances.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by -ROGELIO- View Post
        yeah i've seem some ignorant posts from these guys on this site. Just makes me think how arrogant they are in real life. Arrogance ALWAYS gets snuffed!!! he wants me to watch vanes fights and i've had, and not impressed. The dude opens up ppv events, not even good enough, or loved enough by toprank to make a televised ppv card and yet this guy claims vanes is the next best thing Im starting to think maybe this poster is vanes himself
        yeah bro it's a comedy act. you hit the nail right on the head.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by VanesBoxing View Post
          i never followed Raheem's career... although i was there for that fight since Vanes was on the undercard at Staples.

          was Raheem a champ in the previous weight class?? did he have 7 defenses???

          i mean u speak as if VIC was some nobody who got a shot at Mijares, KOd him, and now wants to sit on top of the world :/

          even without beating Mijares, Vic was considered by many as THE man at Fly and/or Super Fly... Mijares just stamped it and made it official.
          tell me who on vic's resume pre mijares lunches him to p4p status now with the victory? why does vic get the pass over donair, since you claim vic should be p4p because he beat the man that beat the man but yet nonito beat vic so what about donaire? If vic was considered the best in the world and had 7 defenses and donair got ktfo why didnt donair get p4p status?

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          • #75
            Originally posted by -ROGELIO- View Post
            yeah i've seem some ignorant posts from these guys on this site. Just makes me think how arrogant they are in real life. Arrogance ALWAYS gets snuffed!!! he wants me to watch vanes fights and i've had, and not impressed. The dude opens up ppv events, not even good enough, or loved enough by toprank to make a televised ppv card and yet this guy claims vanes is the next best thing Im starting to think maybe this poster is vanes himself
            ya its vanes himself... i had a little bit of respect for you.. but you keep getting dumber n dumber man...

            you find someone real at Top Rank, like Bob himself... and you ask him what he thinks of Vanes and how much Vanes means to him.

            dont blow smoke here man.. Arum cares for no other prospect like he does for Vanes... he doesnt say it to me or you.. he says it to the media you moron

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            • #76
              Originally posted by R.I.P. Corrales View Post
              here's a question, if not Vic then who replaces mijares? Or does he keep his spot despite his lose?
              No way. Mijares is off the list for sure.

              Pacquiao
              Calzaghe
              JMM
              Hopkins
              Vasquez
              Margarito
              Calderon
              Cotto
              Rafael Marquez
              Wlad Klitschko
              Paul Williams
              Chad Dawson


              These are all guys I would definately have on my list before Vic. I would probably place Darchinyan just inside the top 15.

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              • #77
                I know it hurts Rogelio... just think of it like this... as much as you hate Vanes, Old Bob loves him just the opposite

                Promoter Bob Arum said, "This is a major signing for us. We think Vanes is a tremendous talent and a future star, and we have big plans for him."

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by R.I.P. Corrales View Post
                  all of those guys were undefeated at the time and hadnt been KO'd a few fights before. Except for marg but I didnt agree with that either.
                  all those guys where undefeated before they got on the list... so what got them on the list??? being undefeated or beating someone on the p4p list???

                  by your definition marg doesn't belong on the list cause just a couple fights ago he lost to pwill.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by VanesBoxing View Post
                    ya its vanes himself... i had a little bit of respect for you.. but you keep getting dumber n dumber man...

                    you find someone real at Top Rank, like Bob himself... and you ask him what he thinks of Vanes and how much Vanes means to him.

                    dont blow smoke here man.. Arum cares for no other prospect like he does for Vanes... he doesnt say it to me or you.. he says it to the media you moron
                    respect on internet message boards are something i could care less about, especially if its your respect. All you do is blow smoke up people's ass' about how great these two armenians are and you wan't people to respect that? We can talk about opinions or we can talk facts. and fact is vanes can't even make televised ppv cards, yet next year he's the next best thing? Do you want to bet chavez jr gets a title shot before vanes does? Do you want to bet chavez jr will always be above vanes at top rank when it comes to promoting and moving along?

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by VanesBoxing View Post
                      I know it hurts Rogelio... just think of it like this... as much as you hate Vanes, Old Bob loves him just the opposite

                      Promoter Bob Arum said, "This is a major signing for us. We think Vanes is a tremendous talent and a future star, and we have big plans for him."
                      I don't hate vanes. It's foolish to hate someone you've never met or know nothing about isn't it? It's your pathetic hype job of your fighters of same nationality that's hated. I've seen vanes fights and im not impressed neither are plenty of other people. I know that hurts your feelings but it's just reality bro.

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