Roy Jones, Joe Calzaghe Agree To a Rematch, if Roy Wins

[Flawless 2]

Hopkins will be very very mad

Who cares

Hopkins - Dawson/Kessler

[TintaBoricua]

Odd.....news. So, if Calzaghe wins, no rematch?

What a bastard...Joe is putting some insurance behind all the smack he's talking. I really hope Jones wins, just to spite Joe.

Shouldn't the rematch clause work both ways, though? I mean, if there's a rematch clause in the contract, can't it be used by the underdog as well? It would look disgraceful if Calzaghe edged Roy out in a decision then retire from the sport...

[skyler]

What a bastard...Joe is putting some insurance behind all the smack he's talking. I really hope Jones wins, just to spite Joe.

Shouldn't the rematch clause work both ways, though? I mean, if there's a rematch clause in the contract, can't it be used by the underdog as well? It would look disgraceful if Calzaghe edged Roy out in a decision then retire from the sport...

It's to keep hes unbeaten record intact so he can retire undefeated, same reason he didnt give hopkins a rematch.

[McAlister]

If you dont kno, now u kno........ Roy knows he dont have much time left in the sport... he is just trying to MILK this event for all that he can.. he said he wanted 2 fights with joe, before they even signed for the 1 fight lol..... he said, we can do it here infront of u.s, and then we can do it there so they fans can see it live..... (obviously he will say so each side can see a good fight, but its so they both can get paid twice) AND in the event that roy win, then joe win... there will be a 3rd MEGA fight... thats prolly what they really bankin on... talkin about cleaning up the money big time.... im startin to think this whole thing is a set up for one HUGE 3rd fight.. and only THEN will we see them both give it theyre all

[Chase8400]

I agree with this but I would like to see Roy avenge his brutal KO loss of Glenn Johnson.

If he gets past Calzaghe, Jones-Johnson 2 would be a better fight in my mind than another fight with Hopkins. It's not like those 2 will agree on terms anyway.

Beat Calzaghe, avenge the Johnson loss and call it a career.

I totally agree! He has to avenge that loss no matter when it happens, before he calls it a career. I think if they fought this weekend Roy would KO Glenn. Roy has to get back at Johnson for that brutal KO loss. If he does it, he will have the pleasure of revenge and can retire saying he beat everyone he has ever faced at one point or another.

Note: Roy will need to KO Glenn in my opinion to right the wrong that was done to him. I'm not sure why he has not made that paramount before now.

[Chase8400]

What a bastard...Joe is putting some insurance behind all the smack he's talking. I really hope Jones wins, just to spite Joe.

Shouldn't the rematch clause work both ways, though? I mean, if there's a rematch clause in the contract, can't it be used by the underdog as well? It would look disgraceful if Calzaghe edged Roy out in a decision then retire from the sport...

I agree, but it just don't work like that. Joe is in the drivers seat at this time, unfortunately. I know he won't give Roy a rematch if he wins. He would be ****** to, if it were a close fight.

[Chase8400]

If you dont kno, now u kno........ Roy knows he dont have much time left in the sport... he is just trying to MILK this event for all that he can.. he said he wanted 2 fights with joe, before they even signed for the 1 fight lol..... he said, we can do it here infront of u.s, and then we can do it there so they fans can see it live..... (obviously he will say so each side can see a good fight, but its so they both can get paid twice) AND in the event that roy win, then joe win... there will be a 3rd MEGA fight... thats prolly what they really bankin on... talkin about cleaning up the money big time.... im startin to think this whole thing is a set up for one HUGE 3rd fight.. and only THEN will we see them both give it theyre all

Nice Theory, but I think Joes unbeaten record means more to him than that.
Too bad it leaves him this saturday.

[Southpaw16BF]

Pretty interesting that Calzaghe is even thinking about losing and has said all along this is his last fight?

[FLY TY]

**** does he mean his legacy isn't on the line? I dont like roys approach to this fight. He seems to feel contempt with being the guy who "used to be the best" instead of trying to prove that he still is(like hopkins seems to be set on doing). His legacy is on the line to an extent and he knows it, maybe he cant hanndle that pressure so he's trying to dismiss a lose as nothing big.

that's what i was saying as i was reading this.....roy is approaching this as if it doesn't matter whether he wins or loses.....that's bs, and i disagree that fighter are judged only on their primes. they are judged on their entire career, and a loss hurts no matter when you take it. if roy really isn't affected by a loss anymore, than why keep fighting? he definitely don't need the $$$$.

Hopkins is probably fuming right now. I hope if Hopkins somehow does get the winner, he takes a warm up fight. I know people go against that kinda thing in a man with his experience and with his age, but he clearly performs 1000 times better when he's not fighting off a 1 year layoff.

probably. probably not. this could all be a negotiating ploy.....plus it doesn't say WHEN the rematch has to take place. its plausible jones fight hopkins before he does the rematch......that's assuming he beats calzaghe tho.

After Joe saying no about all the rematch stuff all along and him now changing it up and almost going public with wanting one is typical Calzaghe, very contradicting of himself. No harm in that because minds do change and circumstances change. Especially in boxing. The issue i have had is that I have been saying this stuff months ago. Joe would lose and demand a rematch to save face before retiring. If I were Roy, I would not even do the rematch just to spite Joe, if I won.

Alot of people read this and get amped up instantly while not realizing that Jones' statement does not mean that the rematch was built into the contract. This could just be word to word or man to man. That being said, I don't think Roy would break his word on a rematch unless something way better came up. (B-hop rematch)

thats what i was saying. this could be a negotiating tactic by roy to make sure he gets the bigger cut of the hopkins match. he would always be able to say, "hey i could go fight joe again. take it or leave it...."

Depends on how much skrilla is on the table and i gaurantee Jones-H-hop II is worth a whole lot more than a Joe C. rematch.

agreed.

I agree, but I just cannot see it being bigger money-wise than Rjj-B-hop II. That fight has been a must have for ten years or more since Hopkins proved he deserved the rematch. If Calzaghe loses badly to Jones, there will be no reason for a rematch other than money and that will turn myself and alot of fans off. If the fight is close, I would rather Jones still fight B-hop to prove his point about being better all along, etc...

Either way, Jones beats Calzaghe this weekend and now even Joe has shown that he knows that. Bad Move Joe!

wont be. if jones wins saturday. the hopkins fight is definitely next. this is a negotiation tool y jones.

If Roy does win then that sucks for Hopkins for 2 things. 1. Hopkins is still under Roy no matter how u slice it. ... B. B-Hop will have to wait for Roy a little longer..

i'd say they're even or b-hop is a lil better at this point. i dont give a f--- what anyone says, those L's definitely took away from roy's legacy....

It's to keep hes unbeaten record intact so he can retire undefeated, same reason he didnt give hopkins a rematch.

not. if he loses, he won't be unbeaten anymore......

I totally agree! He has to avenge that loss no matter when it happens, before he calls it a career. I think if they fought this weekend Roy would KO Glenn. Roy has to get back at Johnson for that brutal KO loss. If he does it, he will have the pleasure of revenge and can retire saying he beat everyone he has ever faced at one point or another.

Note: Roy will need to KO Glenn in my opinion to right the wrong that was done to him. I'm not sure why he has not made that paramount before now.

roy should fight tarver before he fights glen again. beating tarver is waaaaay more important than glen, IMO. he lost twice to tarver, and the fight he did win was close.......no money in a glen johnson fight. to fight him again, you'd have to assume jones actually cares about his legacy......

[JWPearce3]

I totally agree! He has to avenge that loss no matter when it happens, before he calls it a career. I think if they fought this weekend Roy would KO Glenn. Roy has to get back at Johnson for that brutal KO loss. If he does it, he will have the pleasure of revenge and can retire saying he beat everyone he has ever faced at one point or another.

Note: [I]Roy will need to KO Glenn in my opinion to right the wrong that was done to him. I'm not sure why he has not made that paramount before now.[/I]

Absolutely. Take out Calzaghe then Johnson and ride off into the sunset.

The only problem is, as most Jones Jr. fans know, is that Roy doesn't look for KOs anymore. He hasn't looked for a KO since Griffin 2. A KO of Johnson would be great but I'll be satisfied with a dominant win but nothing less than that.

IMHO Roy will look into a fight with Johnson if he upsets Calzaghe. Tarver is in his head and I bet Johnson is too. He's won 3 fights (hopefully 4 after this weekend) and maybe his confidence will be up enough to try to make a rematch with Johnson and not go into the fight gun shy. Let ole' Glencoffe come in leading with his head and counter him all night long.

Well, all that being said... hypothetically if he does beat Calzaghe and fights/beats Johnson, would that not be the perfect situation going into retirement OR a once and for all rematch with Hopkins?