Roy Jones Jr. Talks Bernard Hopkins, Joe Calzaghe, Johnson

[fightnews55]

Not at all- that's silly. The Tarver that beat Jones was years better than the one who lost to Hopkins. AND, as Jones knows all too werll, Tarver, who was as lifeless as a tailor's dummy, really lost because he'd done exactly what Jones had done.....taken off about 25-30 lbs of pure muscle, before the fight, and could neither move nor throw punches. That wasn't Tarver in there, any more than it was ther real Jones who just beat Tarver in their first fight.

A fighter like Jones doesn't have to be jealous of ANYBODY. I can see that you still really don't know exactly what Jones is, or what he's really done in the boxing world.

There's only ONE Jones, and a dozen Hopkinses...............

Do you actually believe that or are you around to get a rise out of people? If Roy told you the sky was green you would believe it. How was the Tarver that beat Roy light years ahead of the one Hopkins beat when it was only 8 months later numb nuts? Was the Pavlik that KO'D Taylor light years ahead of the one Hopkins beat to?

[fightnews55]

And on another point, I wonder why Jones always mentions that he's the only fighter alive who's won the middle and heavyweight titles. He seems to ignore ...-as if he could or would-..... that he was also Supermiddle Champ, havong beaten Toney all over the ring to win it, and defended it about 5-6 tmes.

I suppose he's just emphasizing the weight difference (NOT differential) between the middle and heavy limits. For me, to beat Toney is a far bigger achievement than beating Hopkins, .............with one arm or both.

And he's also the only fighter alive who's won the Super-milldle and Heavyweight Crowns.

In thinking about it, for me, the only man who could clown around, be completely superior to his opponent, KO an opponent with a punch from behind his back, etc was Jack Johnson.

For example, if you look at the Ketchell fight, of which many accounts have said that Ketchell was well in the fight, you can see at least a couple of times, where Johnson hit Ketchell, and as Ketchell was going down, Johnson stepped in and clinched, actually holding him up, until his head cleared.........

He also seems to forget that James Toney did the exact same thing only better.

[Conmemay]

how can you say there is our a dozen hopkinses when few fighters have his ring intellgence roy is a joke now that adults tell kids about to make sure they learn the fundamentals and not get knocked out as soon as they have a bad night or there natural talents leave them and thats not being jeoulous it's a fact i never seen b hop knocked out when he got older

dude, Jones and Hopkins have totally different styles. Jones relies on his superior physical talent to have a great run in his career. In his prime, he would probably beat every fighter put in front of him. If he had stopped fighting after winning the heavyweight title, he would be one of the greatest fighter alive. His mistake isnt about not learning the fundamentals cuz he didnt need to back then. His mistake was dropping 30lbs of muscles to fight Tarver. He was never the same after that.

[FLY TY]

So what, he won like every single round against Toney with ease and made Toney look like an amateur. He didn't make bhop look like an amateur. Roy is letting his emotions get to him and that is why he doesn't give bhop any credit in there fight.

hopkins will do what he does...and beat the credit out of roy jones jr.....i just hope there won't be any excuses afterwards....say what you want about hopkins, but he has never made excuses, nor allowed any1 to make them for him.......fact is, jones BARELY beat tarver the first time, many ppl think tarver was jobbed, we know what happened the second and third time...glen johnson also handled roy, and since then he has been fighting tomato cans. bottom line is, he's living off his name now, though im rooting for him against calzaghe (cuz i wanna see hopkins-jones II), i'd b a lil surprised if roy pulls it off.....

And on another point, I wonder why Jones always mentions that he's the only fighter alive who's won the middle and heavyweight titles. He seems to ignore ...-as if he could or would-..... that he was also Supermiddle Champ, havong beaten Toney all over the ring to win it, and defended it about 5-6 tmes.

I suppose he's just emphasizing the weight difference (NOT differential) between the middle and heavy limits. For me, to beat Toney is a far bigger achievement than beating Hopkins, .............with one arm or both.

And he's also the only fighter alive who's won the Super-milldle and Heavyweight Crowns.

In thinking about it, for me, the only man who could clown around, be completely superior to his opponent, KO an opponent with a punch from behind his back, etc was Jack Johnson.

For example, if you look at the Ketchell fight, of which many accounts have said that Ketchell was well in the fight, you can see at least a couple of times, where Johnson hit Ketchell, and as Ketchell was going down, Johnson stepped in and clinched, actually holding him up, until his head cleared.........

how can you say there is our a dozen hopkinses when few fighters have his ring intellgence roy is a joke now that adults tell kids about to make sure they learn the fundamentals and not get knocked out as soon as they have a bad night or there natural talents leave them and thats not being jeoulous it's a fact i never seen b hop knocked out when he got older

either he's an idiot or a hater.....either way, he's letting his emotions get the best of him. he said there are "a dozen hopkins's"

Bhop-RJJ JR 2 make it happen.....

cosign...but roy's gotta take care of business first. if not, i'd rather see hopkins go after calzaghe again......if roy loses, there would honestly be no point in fighting him, cuz if hopkins beats him, excuses will sirely follow....

Do you actually believe that or are you around to get a rise out of people? If Roy told you the sky was green you would believe it. How was the Tarver that beat Roy light years ahead of the one Hopkins beat when it was only 8 months later numb nuts? Was the Pavlik that KO'D Taylor light years ahead of the one Hopkins beat to?

he's just trying to get a rise out of ppl, obviously......i don't like roy jones, but i'd never discredit him, which is exactly what his fans do to other fighters.....i hope he beats calzaghe tho, so hopkins-jones II can get made....it'll be the only fight that makes sense for hopkins, something tells me he'll make sure it gets made. 60-40, then whoop roy's ass....

[Jone2ts]

What the **** are you people talking about , Is Roy not allowed to feel that one fighter that he beat was better than another? Why does he have to be bitter or lying maybe he felt Toney was a better fighter and really believes that...he fought the fights and is entitled to his opinon being that he beat both and I love B-Hop but Jones destroyed him in that fight and we would have seen 2 already if bernard woulda took the 60/40 and if Roy wins he will ask for it again I bet unless the money is real big he already won the fight...even Joe says he don't do the rematch **** himself so don't think it's cool for him but not for Roy, Jones beat both these fighters easily and the man can say what he wants and being that no one else actually fought the fights why wouldnt you take him at his word?

[MELLY-MEL...]

bhop was not prime when he fought roy!!!!!!!!!!!!! of course he is gonna say toney was better, at that point he was!

[Brassangel]

he did'nt make b-hop look like an amateur because he fought him one-handed!

True. Also, B-Hop has such an ugly style that no one will make him look like an amateur. People keep saying that Hopkins wasn't in his prime when Jones fought him; well, he had just as many professional fights, and was 3.5 years his senior. Jones was just as green, and never even pulled the trigger in the fight. He fought very tight and cautious, and still dominated for at least 8 rounds.

Bhop-RJJ JR 2 make it happen.....

Please don't. It would be the most boring fight in history. The build-up and smack talk would be the only good part; no good boxing.

dude, Jones and Hopkins have totally different styles. Jones relies on his superior physical talent to have a great run in his career. In his prime, he would probably beat every fighter put in front of him. If he had stopped fighting after winning the heavyweight title, he would be one of the greatest fighter alive. His mistake isnt about not learning the fundamentals cuz he didnt need to back then. His mistake was dropping 30lbs of muscles to fight Tarver. He was never the same after that.

Bin, freaking, go. Bingo. Everybody who discredits Jones' excellent legacy (and underrated status as an all-time p4p great), looks at the W-L column, and not at the circumstances surrounding the fights.

hopkins will do what he does...and beat the credit out of roy jones jr.....i just hope there won't be any excuses afterwards....say what you want about hopkins, but he has never made excuses, nor allowed any1 to make them for him.......fact is, jones BARELY beat tarver the first time, many ppl think tarver was jobbed, we know what happened the second and third time...glen johnson also handled roy, and since then he has been fighting tomato cans. bottom line is, he's living off his name now, though im rooting for him against calzaghe (cuz i wanna see hopkins-jones II), i'd b a lil surprised if roy pulls it off.....

What? You mean the fact that Hopkins has cried robber after every single loss? You mean the fact that he says the refs screwed him, or the hometown favorite will always get the call, or that the judges think the number of punches looks good, or the fact that he said he wasn't mentally prepared for Taylor in their first fight, or...

You are insane. Hopkins makes tons of excuses.

bhop was not prime when he fought roy!!!!!!!!!!!!! of course he is gonna say toney was better, at that point he was!

Jones wasn't prime yet either, and was naturally too big to be fighting at 160. He still beat Hopkins.

Hopkins beat Tarver because Tarver drained 30 pounds after filming the Rocky movie shortly before the contest, while B-Hop filled out into a more comfortable weight for himself. It was a disaster waiting to happen for Antonio. What do you know? The same thing that happened to Jones against Tarver and Johnson.

Jones can say Toney was the most skilled fighter he's ever faced, because he's the only one was in Jones' shoes. Muhammad Ali has repeatedly stated that Floyd Patterson was the most skilled opponent he ever faced, but he [Floyd] never laid a glove on him in two fights. Skill, toughness, and difficulty don't necessarily go hand-in-hand. B-Hop was probably the toughest opponent to crack for Jones, but Toney may have been the most skilled.

Does Jones make excuses? Yes, but they are just that: reasons which excuse Jones for his losses. Change in life habits, jumping up to heavy and then trying to come back down 30 pounds and fight title fights, trying to be what people said he was or should be, etc. He should have either rested and rebuilt his body, or retired following his heavyweight victory.

[ricky1978]

Calzaghe will get him, there is no doubt.....

[krl72]

Do you actually believe that or are you around to get a rise out of people? If Roy told you the sky was green you would believe it. How was the Tarver that beat Roy light years ahead of the one Hopkins beat when it was only 8 months later numb nuts? Was the Pavlik that KO'D Taylor light years ahead of the one Hopkins beat to?

Tarver - Jones II - May 15, 2004.
Tarver - Hopkins - June 10, 2006.

Eight months?

If you're referring to Tarver-Jones III, then that's your second mistake, since I don't think anyone in the world of boxing would try to judge either of those fighters on that fight.

The truth is, the Tarver that knocked out Jones would have embarrassed the Tarver that fought Hopkins.

And as for the Hopkins-Toney argument. Toney was a much better and more accomplished fighter when they fought. Just because Roy dominated it more than against Hopkins doesn't mean that Hopkins was a tougher fight. There was not a single minute of Jones-Hopkins where the outcome was in doubt. B-Hop may have won a few rounds, but he got dominated. As did Toney. It's a worthless argument as to who was better, since neither of them stood a chance.

And for the record, Roy was no more in his prime than Hopkins was. More mature as a figher, yes -- but no closer to his prime. Young Roy dominated Hopkins; prime Roy would have dominated every fighter alive at the time; and old Roy vs. Hopkins is virtually meaningless, but if Roy beats Calzaghe, he'll beat Hopkins again. If he loses to Joe, B-Hop probably beats him.

[mistermartin]

Not at all- that's silly. The Tarver that beat Jones was years better than the one who lost to Hopkins. AND, as Jones knows all too werll, Tarver, who was as lifeless as a tailor's dummy, really lost because he'd done exactly what Jones had done.....taken off about 25-30 lbs of pure muscle, before the fight, and could neither move nor throw punches. That wasn't Tarver in there, any more than it was ther real Jones who just beat Tarver in their first fight.

A fighter like Jones doesn't have to be jealous of ANYBODY. I can see that you still really don't know exactly what Jones is, or what he's really done in the boxing world.

There's only ONE Jones, and a dozen Hopkinses...............

You sound dumb as hell....

Who the hell has Roy jones fought throughout his career. even when he went to HW...He fought John Ruiz....When was the last fight big John actually won. Stop it. If there are a dozen Hopkins name em....