Floyd did not check all his blocks......

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    #31
    Originally posted by JoartCC
    Dude Im just saying the obvious.

    And the obvious is .....

    You are a **** gayweather fan.
    I have to go to work, I'll check back later to see how many times you

    managed to call me gay.

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    • Pullcounter
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      #32
      Originally posted by Puas
      Cong**** on your 3000th post.
      thanx... didn't even notice that.

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      • El Dominicano
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        #33
        Originally posted by Puas
        ......to get the same undisputed respect that previous greats continue to receive. I'm talking about the "ATG status" type of respect that fighters like Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Sugar Ray, Whitaker and Oscar get.

        Floyd's skills are without question, the best in the game (defensively speaking). But his legacy is always a topic of discussion. He did not get all the blocks checked in order to achieve the same undisputed respect that other great fighter receive.

        Lets get started.

        He failed to win the Gold Medal at the Olympic Games. This is a big one. It's a major stepping stone and favorable mark if you want to be held in the same regard as the other greats.

        He did not take on the biggest possible challenges. His selection of opponents was comparable to the way he fought - safety first. He missed big fight opportunities against Casamayor, Shane, Kostya, Cotto & Margarito.

        He did not take risks inside the ring. To say his style was crowd pleasing would be a stretch of the imagination; remember Carlos Baldomir. The fighters mentioned above took risks to cement their legacy and made for some of the most memorable fights in history, less Whitaker. But Pernell was fun to watch.

        I know I'll get some hate for this. But I wish Floyd would have checked these blocks. Had he done so, there would be no question as to his status as an All Time Great.
        RJJ didn't win the medal...he got robbed. Mayweather also got robbed...so what does that mean? Floyd wanted a SSM fight but SSM took a year off and then spoke about a toothache. Floyd was even calling out a prime DLH, he spoke about skipping 140 to face off against DLH. Too bad this didn't happen and neither did the Winky fight. Therez alot he can still do but itz up to him...Too bad his love for the sport had died

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        • JoartCC
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          #34
          Originally posted by el Dominicano
          rjj Didn't Win The Medal...he Got Robbed. Mayweather Also Got Robbed...so What Does That Mean? Floyd Wanted A Ssm Fight But Ssm Took A Year Off And Then Spoke About A Toothache. Floyd Was Even Calling Out A Prime Dlh, He Spoke About Skipping 140 To Face Off Against Dlh. Too Bad This Didn't Happen And Neither Did The Winky Fight. Therez Alot He Can Still Do But Itz Up To Him...too Bad His Love For The Sport Had Died
          Im Not Fighting To Prove To The Fans Whos The Best

          ***** Retired

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          • El Dominicano
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            #35
            Originally posted by Ryn0
            I agree, Floyd will not be held in that ATG status. But the olympic medal thing isn't neccasary Robinson, Jones (he tried and was robbed) didn't achieve it.

            He just didn't fight the best when he got to 140, 147. He argueably avoided Casamayor but he did fight Corrales, Castillo, Manfredy and Chavez at 130-135. He argueably avoided Cotto at 140-147, Hatton at 140 (he fought him at 147), Shane at 147 as well as Cotto, Margarito.

            I would pick him to beat almost all of them (not sure about a prime Shane) but he didn't face them.
            He avoided Cotto at 140? He avoided Hatton at 140?? SSM took a year off and made excuses, remember his toothache? I do agree that the Casa fight SHOULD have happend as for Kosta I don't know what happend.

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            • JoartCC
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              #36
              Originally posted by El Dominicano
              He avoided Cotto at 140? He avoided Hatton at 140?? SSM took a year off and made excuses, remember his toothache? I do agree that the Casa fight SHOULD have happend as for Kosta I don't know what happend.
              I wanna fight Cotto but not right now.

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              • El Chicano
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                #37
                Originally posted by El Dominicano
                He avoided Cotto at 140? He avoided Hatton at 140?? SSM took a year off and made excuses, remember his toothache? I do agree that the Casa fight SHOULD have happend as for Kosta I don't know what happend.
                Shane wanted to fight Floyd, but he didn't want to interfere with Floyd vs Oscar. Result: toothache. Oscar owns the company, you don't get in his way.

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                • El Dominicano
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by JoartCC
                  I wanna fight Cotto but not right now.
                  A serious question. Don't act the fool

                  If you had the power to bring Mayweather death...would you do it?

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                  • Kid McCoy
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Puas
                    ......to get the same undisputed respect that previous greats continue to receive. I'm talking about the "ATG status" type of respect that fighters like Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Sugar Ray, Whitaker and Oscar get.

                    Floyd's skills are without question, the best in the game (defensively speaking). But his legacy is always a topic of discussion. He did not get all the blocks checked in order to achieve the same undisputed respect that other great fighter receive.

                    Lets get started.

                    He failed to win the Gold Medal at the Olympic Games. This is a big one. It's a major stepping stone and favorable mark if you want to be held in the same regard as the other greats.

                    He did not take on the biggest possible challenges. His selection of opponents was comparable to the way he fought - safety first. He missed big fight opportunities against Casamayor, Shane, Kostya, Cotto & Margarito.

                    He did not take risks inside the ring. To say his style was crowd pleasing would be a stretch of the imagination; remember Carlos Baldomir. The fighters mentioned above took risks to cement their legacy and made for some of the most memorable fights in history, less Whitaker. But Pernell was fun to watch.

                    I know I'll get some hate for this. But I wish Floyd would have checked these blocks. Had he done so, there would be no question as to his status as an All Time Great.
                    The very pernickety can pick holes in everyone's record; Robinson not meeting Burley, Ali not rematching Foreman etc. But when all's said and done, both of those can be forgiven when you consider their accomplishments and the number of dangerous challenges and top-tier opponents they did face.

                    As you say, Floyd is a stellar talent, but you need more than talent to be a great. His resume just has too many question marks. Failed to clean out and unify a single division, and has held nothing but a WBC belt throughout his career in a 4 title era. Skirted around all the most dangerous challenges above 135, turned down Judah when he was undisputed, turned down a career high payday to fight Margarito, and not faced a single current top 8 welter.

                    What might have been.

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                    • JAB5239
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by JoartCC
                      A prime example of a **** gayweather fan.

                      You really got nothing logical to say dude.

                      Although it's no wonder almost all **** gayweather fans didnt went to college to have a proper education
                      Im no mayweather fan, but this is all sorts of funny. "Didn't went to college"? You do know the old saying about people who live in glass houses, right?

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