Joe Calzaghe's Five Best Wins

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  • Dan...
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    #61
    Originally posted by Flawless 2
    That is the thing, no such thing as a natural weight. I understand the Oscar case. Not Tito he couldn't make 147 or 154 and he just KO Joppy at 160, yet they say he is a natural WW. Would people say Calzaghe best win over Hopkins was not good becasue Hopkins is a natural MW.

    I justed used Mayweather and Williams as examples
    I agree with you. Not every fighter has a "natural weight" and I think Tito could potentially fall under that category. He certainly did not look like a "natural WW" when he was dismantling Reid at 154 or Joppy at 160.

    Like I have said in the past, I give Bernard 100% credit for his win over Tito, but he gets limited credit from me for his wins over Oscar and Winky.

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      #62
      Originally posted by danc1984
      I agree with you. Not every fighter has a "natural weight" and I think Tito could potentially fall under that category. He certainly did not look like a "natural WW" when he was dismantling Reid at 154 or Joppy at 160.

      Like I have said in the past, I give Bernard 100% credit for his win over Tito, but he gets limited credit from me for his wins over Oscar and Winky.
      agreed also Hopkins outboxed Tito that night not out muscled him

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        #63
        shamba mitchell?

        he's ****ing terrible

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          #64
          tito did nothing at 160 besides koing joppy (who?)
          oscar did nothing at 160 besides robbing felix sturm of a belt
          winky did nothing at 168+
          pavlik never fought at 170
          calzaghe never fought at 175 (hopkins lost anyway)

          why does hopkins get so much credit for making people move up in weight to fight him?

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            #65
            Originally posted by boxasmash
            tito did nothing at 160 besides koing joppy (who?)
            oscar did nothing at 160 besides robbing felix sturm of a belt
            winky did nothing at 168+
            pavlik never fought at 170
            calzaghe never fought at 175 (hopkins lost anyway)

            why does hopkins get so much credit for making people move up in weight to fight him?
            He destroyed all of his competition at 160 before the best from 147 and 154 moved up to fight him. Similar to Hagler's situation. Marvin doesn't cop any hate, why should Bernard?

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              #66
              Originally posted by danc1984
              He destroyed all of his competition at 160 before the best from 147 and 154 moved up to fight him. Similar to Hagler's situation. Marvin doesn't cop any hate, why should Bernard?
              but who did he destroy exactly?

              robert allen and mohamed hakkar?

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                #67
                Originally posted by boxasmash
                tito did nothing at 160 besides koing joppy (who?)
                oscar did nothing at 160 besides robbing felix sturm of a belt
                winky did nothing at 168+
                pavlik never fought at 170
                calzaghe never fought at 175 (hopkins lost anyway)

                why does hopkins get so much credit for making people move up in weight to fight him?
                Tito was favourite 3-1 to one. Hopkins beat Tito every single round without even having to use his body. The funny part is Tito out weighed Hopkins.

                Winky was unbeaten for a long time and Hopkins beat him quite easy. Winky style is feared by many and Hopkins beat him.

                Pavlik was 26 years old and is in his prime. Hopkins is 43 years old and had to lose 5 pounds, Yet he beat Pavlik every single round and out boxed him and made him look very one dimensional.

                Calzaghe many thouight Hopkins won and decision could have gone either way. Calzaghe was hurt in this fight, Hopkins wasn't. Calzaghe got knocked down Hopkins didn't. Hopkins throw proper punches Calzaghe didn't. Calzaghe won on work rate, that is reason for a SD OVER A 43 YEAR OLD MAN

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by boxasmash
                  but who did he destroy exactly?

                  robert allen and mohamed hakkar?
                  What do you want him to do? Invent quality 160 pounders to face?

                  Honestly dude, try and wise up a bit.

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                    #69
                    Calzaghe best wins

                    Hopkins 43 year old man which he got hurt and was knocked down and got a SD which is a controversial decision.

                    Kessler. Who has he beaten against?? Mundine and got hrut by Calzaghe and never will step up. reports Kessler hand was hurt which makes Calzaghe win look ever worse

                    Lacy. Who has he beaten and what exaclty has he done after???

                    Eubank was shot and way past his prime. Took fight in short notice and was weight drained.

                    Last best win

                    Insert European fighter

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by danc1984
                      What do you want him to do? Invent quality 160 pounders to face?

                      Honestly dude, try and wise up a bit.
                      why didnt he move up in weight?

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