Joe Calzaghe's Five Best Wins

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Ugh Calzaghes resume is phuckin terrible.

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Well even Floyd doesn;t have so many great names on his resume.

DLH, JUDAH, CHiCO, CASTILLO, CHAVEZ.
compare those to:
EUBANK, KESSLER, BHOP, LACY and REID and there is not much difference.

Oscar...Judah..Castillo...and Corrlalles.

Are better then the guys Joe fought.

Not to mention Hatton...oh and Hernandez.

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Ugh Calzaghes resume is phuckin terrible.

It's not terrible, just not stellar. People overlook a few of his opponents, even Brewer wasn't a bad one.

Some facts about the Calzaghe-Brewer fight.


Brewer:

Philadelphia fighter.
Former IBF champion.
Fights orthodox but is left-handed.
His sparring before the fight included 150 rounds with heavyweights.
Has good power.
Height advantage over Calzaghe.
Reach advantage over Calzaghe.
Throws lots of punches.
Nigel Benn suggested Calzaghe would have problems with Brewer's right hand.
Bomber Graham (who Brewer defeated) also said Brewer hits hard.

No doubt, Brewer ain't the best, and some say his chin could occasionally be vulnerable, but he's actually pretty resilient and very determined, as shown against Calzaghe. He adds up to a solid win. Where he fails is in technique, probably due to quite a poor amateur background. Joe, on the other hand, was a 3 time ABA champion at 3 different weight classes over 3 consecutive years -- an extremely good achievement for an amateur.

Calzaghe was quite happy with his performance against Brewer. In the post-fight interview he seemed grateful to get another 12 round fight under his belt because he had only boxed 5 rounds in the last 12 months. He was very respectful of Brewer, said he takes a good shot and that he was robbed (twice) against Sven Ottke.

Also in the post-fight interview, Calzaghe said Hopkins would be his defining fight. He also said he would knock Bernard out. This fight was 2002, and I believe shortly after this Bernard had agreed to fight Joe but then backed out just before the contracts were signed. Hopkins wanted twice as much money as they'd originally agreed, therefore priced himself out of the fight. Rumor has it that Hopkins earned less money in his next fight (against Morade Hakkar) than he was offered to fight Joe.



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It's not terrible, just not stellar. People overlook a few of his opponents, even Brewer wasn't a bad one.

Some facts about the Calzaghe-Brewer fight.


Brewer:

Philadelphia fighter.
Former IBF champion.
Fights orthodox but is left-handed.
His sparring before the fight included 150 rounds with heavyweights.
Has good power.
Height advantage over Calzaghe.
Reach advantage over Calzaghe.
Throws lots of punches.
Nigel Benn suggested Calzaghe would have problems with Brewer's right hand.
Bomber Graham (who Brewer defeated) also said Brewer hits hard.

No doubt, Brewer ain't the best, and some say his chin could occasionally be vulnerable, but he's actually pretty resilient and very determined, as shown against Calzaghe. He adds up to a solid win. Where he fails is in technique, probably due to quite a poor amateur background. Joe, on the other hand, was a 3 time ABA champion at 3 different weight classes over 3 consecutive years -- an extremely good achievement for an amateur.

Calzaghe was quite happy with his performance against Brewer. In the post-fight interview he seemed grateful to get another 12 round fight under his belt because he had only boxed 5 rounds in the last 12 months. He was very respectful of Brewer, said he takes a good shot and that he was robbed (twice) against Sven Ottke.

Also in the post-fight interview, Calzaghe said Hopkins would be his defining fight. He also said he would knock Bernard out. This fight was 2002, and I believe shortly after this Bernard had agreed to fight Joe but then backed out just before the contracts were signed. Hopkins wanted twice as much money as they'd originally agreed, therefore priced himself out of the fight. Rumor has it that Hopkins earned less money in his next fight (against Morade Hakkar) than he was offered to fight Joe.

My thing is this....

Calzaghe is very skilled and missed ALOT of oppurtunities.



Oscar
Toney
Tito
Hopkins
Roy
Winky
Tarver
Johnson


etc.,...

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Oscar... Too small. Calzaghe would have obliterated him.
Toney... No idea.
Tito... See Oscar. Tito wouldn't stand a chance against Calzaghe.
Hopkins... Joe's been crying out for a fight since at least 2002, and had an agreement to fight him them. Not Joe's fault -- Hops backed out.
Roy... See next weekend. A little late, yes, but if you go by Warren's word, Jones also priced himself out and wanted nothing to do with Joe earlier on.
Winky... Fought mostly at lower weights. Possibly not a big enough "name" target for Joe who wanted Hopkins, and Winky was beaten by Hopkins.
Tarver... Different weight class.
Johnson... Was penciled in to fight Joe after the Clinton Woods fight. Johnson lost, therefore the deal fell through.



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[Shadow boxer 3]

I dont know really. we all have seen that lacy is just hype. Kessler was his best win, but kessler seemed very affected by that huge welsh crowd. knocked down and a sd against hopkins. I don't even think he beat Robin Reid, could of went either way. and yes Eubank, but who did Eubank beat? Aside from names mentioned not really any notable other opponents. I have nothing against Calzaghe, but this is just how I see it. Very convinced if even 75% of the Jones from the 90's shows up on november 8th that calzaghe will lose. truth.

i totally agree

[KostyaTszyu44]

It's often hard to pick 10 "good" fighters on just about anybody's resume. Try the same thing with a few of your favorites, you'll see what I mean. And out of those that you can, how many have a high win ratio against those 10? There are a few I can think of, but not many, and none went undefeated against true world-class opposition.

Calzaghe is undoubtedly world class. He could've made a few better fights throughout his career, but then so could alot of other guys. RJJ has a resume with somewhat similar opponents, with the exception that he has Toney and Hopkins on his, but remember, those guys were much younger and less experienced when they ran into a physically gifted Roy, and I'm not so sure either of those younger versions of the superb fighters they are today would've beaten Calzaghe. Toney would've had the best chance of the two younger versions, being the defensive genius that he is.

Another thing: Roy went through the exact same **** back in "the day", being constantly ridiculed and crusified on sports networks for his seeming unwillingness to take on credible opposition.

okay then, ill do that with b-hop who is a fave of mine

1. pavlik
2. RJJ
3. Joppy
4. DLH
5. Trinidad
6. Echols
7. Johnson
8. Tarver
9. Wright
10. Taylor

see???? and thats not even a list of ten "good" fighters, its a list of 10 very good quality fighters overall......

how about with kostya tszyu

1. hatton
2. sharmba mitchell
3. jesse james leija
4. ben tackie
5. judah
6. oktay urkal
7. roger mayweather
8. Julio Caesar Chavez
9. miguel angel gonzalez
10. vince phillips

floyd mayweather

1. hatton
2. DLH
3. Baldomir
4. Gatti
5. demarcus corley
6. castillo
7. corrales
8. hernandez
9. judah
10. mitchell

hmm..........

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To be fair Kostya both Tszyu and Mayweather fought in stacked divisions for most of thier careers.

If you're going to compair then compair the Career of another SWM over the same period, or another weak division.

Calzaghe's main fault is that he didn't leave his division and frankly very few fighters are genuinely capable of that.

[WhoreUs]

To be fair Kostya both Tszyu and Mayweather fought in stacked divisions for most of thier careers.

If you're going to compair then compair the Career of another SWM over the same period, or another weak division.

Calzaghe's main fault is that he didn't leave his division and frankly very few fighters are genuinely capable of that.

too bad he couldn't fight great 147 guys.......

he could be a "legend" or "all-time great" lmao

take away hopkins "great wins" over natural welterweights and his resume is more crappy than joes.

just unbiased observation......

[C.J.Mak]

too bad he couldn't fight great 147 guys.......

he could be a "legend" or "all-time great" lmao

take away hopkins "great wins" over natural welterweights and his resume is more crappy than joes.
just unbiased observation......

Exactly although B-Hop nuthuggers will defend this to the death.