Does having a vegetarian diet benefit you as a boxer?

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Individual activism isn't ******, I don't agree with you. It's not only about people trying to make a difference to the amount of animals that are killed, it's just not OK with everyone to eat meat. It makes a MASSIVE difference to my conscience. I hate to see people hurt animals. It's not cool. It's cowardly because they can't fight back. If they could talk to us, we probably wouldn't eat them. If people had to go kill cows for dinner, we probably wouldn't eat them. If farmers didn't make megabucks from dead flesh, they probably wouldn't kill animals.

You want to eat it? Fine, go ahead! Your choice.

If thats the case then all the animals starve. I do not support animal abuse but we do need to eat animals. One of the reasons I don't eat at some fast food place is the animal torture I have seen. I have no problem with killing them for food but not torture.

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Lol, you just go around calling people ignorant who disagree with you?

I'm not sure how that isn't forcing your opinion or being preachy, but... that's just me.

Where have I called anyone ignorant? I said one comment you made was ignorant, and it was, yet I intended no offense by it and I have no right to question your lifestyle choices. I also said I wish people would educate themselves a little bit before claiming they'd be miserable if they ate a vegetarian diet. That's not forcing an opinion on anyone. If I wanted to force my opinion on someone I'd say you're a ****ing coward, you stink of ****** meat, you're wrong for eating it, and your karma will get you back one day for being a greedy, animal butchering bastard.



Want fries with that?



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A vegetarian diet is definitely healthier than one that includes meats specially red meat. Of course, that is only true if it is a well balanced vegetarian diet which is pretty hard to achieve. You can definitely get all the proteins/amino acids from vegetables but you will need to have a greater variety of foods in order to obtain complete proteins which are found in eggs, chicken, beef etc. What does this mean?? Proteins in eggs, milk, fish and meat are complete proteins that meet all of the body's amino acid requirements for proper tissue maintenance and growth. Different vegetarian foods like Corn, legumes, nuts and vegetables are rich in protein however they are incomplete proteins. Therefore vegetarians must carefully plan their diets in order to obtain all the necessary amino acids and prevent malnutrition. When you have a well balanced diet (legumes, grains, cereals, vegetables) you will have all the necessary amino acids for proper nutrition. Another thing to keep in mind is that several studies have linked consumption of meats (specially red meat) to have a big effect on developing life threatening diseases such as prostate cancer, colon cancer, cardiovascular disease, etc.


With all that said, I cannot possibly give up meat from my diet..... there's nothing quite like it!

Very good analysis, that is what i have read. The main point being that nothing outside of meat has a source of complete protein, but with a variety of non-meat products it can be achieved. But I agree, I love meat. Although I usually eat more white meat than red meat.

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Oh, and I'm through with this thread. I've had far too many arguments over the last 30 years about this.

If you wanna eat meat, fine. I don't, so that's that.



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FRKO, you are crazy if you think everyone would be okay with a vegetarian diet. I think a ton of people would be miserable if they went vegan/vegetarian. I know people that are vegetarians now and some people that tried it and didn't last. It all varies on the person doing it and while a vegetarians options of food has gotten better its still not the tastiest thing in the world. I know a vegan lady and the site of meat makes her sick and she is happy that she is a vegan but I also know people that did it for 2 months and just gave up because they couldn't adapt. Back to the question though, being a vegetarian has a great chance of allowing you to become a better boxer and living a healthier life.

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Individual activism isn't ******, I don't agree with you. It's not only about people trying to make a difference to the amount of animals that are killed, it's just not OK with everyone to eat meat. It makes a MASSIVE difference to my conscience. I hate to see people hurt animals. It's not cool. It's cowardly because they can't fight back. If they could talk to us, we probably wouldn't eat them. If people had to go kill cows for dinner, we probably wouldn't eat them. If farmers didn't make megabucks from dead flesh, they probably wouldn't kill animals.

You want to eat it? Fine, go ahead! Your choice.

If people believe that their personal decision is for their own personal conscience, then I don't classify that as individual activisim.

It's the people who think their individual action actually changes something on the large scale that get on my nerves... it just makes no sense.

For instance, I'm in Kansas, which has gone ********** for the last 100,000 presidential elections, and everyone tells me that I need to go vote, because it matters and it is my individual duty to the country to let my vote be heard. That is just dumb to me... with or without my vote, the end result is the same.

I don't care about very many issues, but... cruelty to animals seriously bothers me to no end. I would rather humans get hurt than animals, because animals are innocent, as compared to humans who are inherently evil and have dished out their own amount of suffering on people. But, the meat that I eat is mostly grain fed, without steroids and hormones added, and they are allowed to live on free range farms until they are humanely put down and processed into food. I certainly don't agree with the way CAFOs are run, trust me.

I tried being vegetarian once for about a week, but... I'm such a picky eater, that I really just started dropping weight because I was skipping meals. Nothing sounded good to me at all. And when you weigh 130 pounds at 6'0, dropping 10 pounds in 2 weeks is not a good sign of things to come.

[Fox McCloud]

Where have I called anyone ignorant? I said one comment you made was ignorant, and it was, yet I intended no offense by it and I have no right to question your lifestyle choices. I also said I wish people would educate themselves a little bit before claiming they'd be miserable if they ate a vegetarian diet. That's not forcing an opinion on anyone. If I wanted to force my opinion on someone I'd say you're a ****ing coward, you stink of ****** meat, you're wrong for eating it, and your karma will get you back one day for being a greedy, animal butchering bastard.



Want fries with that?

Lol, I am educated on it... I was the one who posted about teeth structures and PH content of human stomach acid compared to all other carnivores... I know my facts. But it's all good.

And yes, I want fries, but only if they have been cooked with lard cooking oil and have been soaked in beef juice.

[Stickman]

Individual activism isn't ******, I don't agree with you. It's not only about people trying to make a difference to the amount of animals that are killed, it's just not OK with everyone to eat meat. It makes a MASSIVE difference to my conscience. I hate to see people hurt animals. It's not cool. It's cowardly because they can't fight back. If they could talk to us, we probably wouldn't eat them. If people had to go kill cows for dinner, we probably wouldn't eat them. If farmers didn't make megabucks from dead flesh, they probably wouldn't kill animals.

You want to eat it? Fine, go ahead! Your choice.

Ok, time for the truth....You're female, aren't you.


By the way, I have no problem with people who prefer to deprive their brain and body of the protein it needs to function correctly...that's their choice. But trying to make other people feel guilty because they choose otherwise is a bit low. However, since you're otherwise a decent poster, I'm not going to give you too hard a time over it.

Just to let you know, though, what you consider "megabucks" from dead flesh has never been what I'd consider to be the same. Most farmers do OK, I don't know any rich ones. Addntionally, not all farmers sell what they raise. I raise my own pork, chicken and beef (and slaughter, and butcher them as well), and I certainly don't make megabucks, I just prefer to know what I'm eating, and that it wasn't butchered in filth before packaged and sold. I also raise most of my vegetables and other produce. Farmers also happen to be the ones that make it possible for you to live on your vegan diet. After all, what vegetables would you be able to find in the dead of winter where you live? That all gets grown elsewhere and trucked in.

Additionally, I don't believe in animal cruelty. I've never in my life been cruel to an animal. If you want to see cruel, watch a cat catch a chipmunk and see how long it plays with it and terrorizes it before finally killing it and (sometimes) eating it. I rather feel like the single .22 bullet to the cerebellum of an animal that's been well cared for it's entire life, always treated decently, and very well fed, is far more kind and merciful than any prey animal in the wild would receive from whatever predator happens to run them down.

One last point:
Humans are made to eat both meats and vegetables. We aren't built for one or the other for any extended period. You will suffer consequences at some point in your life for doing things to your body for which it isn't designed, I just hope they aren't terribly severe.