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  • S.G.
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    #11
    personally, the fact that Hopkins went on to dominate Pavlik a fight later, is what swayed my decision to pick Calzaghe's win as more impressive

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    • El Dominicano
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      #12
      Originally posted by S.G.
      personally, the fact that Hopkins went on to dominate Pavlik a fight later, is what swayed my decision to pick Calzaghe's win as more impressive
      Thatz from a style stand point. Pavlik is slow and one dimensional...

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      • S.G.
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        #13
        Originally posted by El Dominicano
        Thatz from a style stand point. Pavlik is slow and one dimensional...
        yeah, but still... it's easy to say in retrospect (although i know a good few people on here called it before hand - myself included ), Pavlik was also a prime fighter, the favourite to win with both the public and boxing experts and one of the biggest faces in boxing right now... i think it added that much more impressiveness(for lack of a better word) to the Joe win, which was either being dismissed as a robbery or a victory over an OAP before that

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        • Jumpman23
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          #14
          LOL, Joe beat a 43 year old Hopkins, imo its a good win but not great, Im more impressed with JTs 2 wins over a younger hopkins... theres only so much you can do at 43

          people say that B-HOP was green when Roy beat him, well Roy was even younger that B-HOP..

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          • T-97
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            #15
            Originally posted by Jumpman23
            LOL, Joe beat a 43 year old Hopkins, imo its a good win but not great, Im more impressed with JTs 2 wins over a younger hopkins... theres only so much you can do at 43

            people say that B-HOP was green when Roy beat him, well Roy was even younger that B-HOP..
            Roy ws younger but a lot more experienced. Roy was an olympic medalist, Hopkins was an ex-convict..

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            • mspiegelo
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              #16
              the one that didn't get dropped on his ass and actually landed some effective punches on bhop, at a time when B-Hop wasn't in his '80s no less!

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              • Chr0nic
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                #17
                jones beat him one-handed, but the calzaghe hopkins was more entertaing, including a knockdown and ****, i did'nt read the first post and just went with the title so i picked jones, if i had read the first post i would';ve picked calzaghe

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                • Chr0nic
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by S.G.
                  personally, the fact that Hopkins went on to dominate Pavlik a fight later, is what swayed my decision to pick Calzaghe's win as more impressive
                  pavlik did'nt even fight back in that fight, i never seen any of pavliks fights except that one with b-hop, but is that how he always fights?.. how has he been winning?

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                  • boxasmash
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                    #19
                    the question is unclear.

                    Jones won more clearly but the question was, who beat the better version?

                    Two questions in one.

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                    • Benny Leonard
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by boxasmash
                      EASILY the one calzaghe faced.

                      Would the green hopkins who lost to jones be able to beat pavlik like he did? he drew with segundo mercardo (who) and got KDed twice not long after the Jones fight.

                      not even close
                      Not only would Hopkins have beat Pavlik back in the day, he would have finished him off.

                      I am starting to believe many never saw Hopkins fight prior to Tito other than the Roy Jones Jr fight.

                      Hopkins was a beast back in the day, but it was Jones who calmed his ass down.

                      Hopkins never had to come up with a gameplan to pace himself because of his age and stamina...not back in the day.

                      He also threw more and threw harder.

                      Even Allen said after their last bout that Hopkins wasn't as good and wasn't as powerful as he was before.


                      Note: Jones had 21 fights; Hopkins 23.
                      Last edited by Benny Leonard; 10-30-2008, 11:33 AM.

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