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  • S.G.
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    #1

    Who's win over Hopkins was more impressive...

    Calzaghe's split decision in '08 or Jones Jr.'s unanimous decision in '93

    Which version of Hopkins was tougher, and closer to his best?
    ...the young (okay, not that young), green, not fully developed version Roy Jones beat, or the (very) old version Calzaghe sc****d a win over?

    Does the nature of the wins reflect their skill set or Hopkins'?

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    Calzaghe's
    15.79%
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    Jones Jr.'s
    78.95%
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    Both equally impressive
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    errrrrrrrr i dunno man
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  • boxasmash
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    EASILY the one calzaghe faced.

    Would the green hopkins who lost to jones be able to beat pavlik like he did? he drew with segundo mercardo (who) and got KDed twice not long after the Jones fight.

    not even close

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    • El Dominicano
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      #3
      Originally posted by S.G.
      Calzaghe's split decision in '08 or Jones Jr.'s unanimous decision in '93

      Which version of Hopkins was tougher, and closer to his best?
      ...the young (okay, not that young), green, not fully developed version Roy Jones beat, or the (very) old version Calzaghe sc****d a win over?

      Does the nature of the wins reflect their skill set or Hopkins'?

      Vote and discuss.
      The B-hop RJJ faced was closer to his best.
      The best B-Hop I seen was the one that faced Glenn Johson, Antwun, Mercado,

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      • NeXt In Line
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        #4
        I'm taking Calzaghe, simply because I think that down the line Hopkins could have given Roy a much bigger run for his money in 2001 or so, and he wasn't living up to the potential he has now. Calzaghe beat, though he was old, one of the best and most tactical fighters on the planet.

        However, Roy did break his right hand before the fight with Hopkins, that's pretty impressive.

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        • S.G.
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          #5
          Originally posted by boxasmash
          EASILY the one calzaghe faced.

          Would the green hopkins who lost to jones be able to beat pavlik like he did? he drew with segundo mercardo (who) and got KDed twice not long after the Jones fight.

          not even close
          but taking into account the manor of the victory, was Joe's still more impressive? (the very close decision which some people still believe went the wrong way)

          the Hopkins who fought Jones was still far from a mug, and lost in a slightly more comprehensive fashion

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          • sparked_85
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            #6
            Jones won clearly.

            Calzaghe just about won, and won basically because he kept his hands moving and Hopkins got forced to expend energy eventually slowing right the way down. Even then I can see why people can say why Hopkins won, they'd be dead wrong, but they could still say it.

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            • T-97
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              #7
              Roy beat a green Hopkins, Calzaghe beat a gray Hopkins.

              I think Calzaghe beat the tougher version, Roy beat him closer to his physical prime, but Joe beat him at his mental prime.

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              • pr20
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                #8
                Roy's injured hand plays into how impressive a win it was as well. UD agasinst an all-time great.

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                • El Dominicano
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by boxasmash
                  EASILY the one calzaghe faced.

                  Would the green hopkins who lost to jones be able to beat pavlik like he did? he drew with segundo mercardo (who) and got KDed twice not long after the Jones fight.

                  not even close
                  Funny, B-Hop dealt with armed soilderz Knocking down doorz and interigating him. He even felt...had he gotten the U.D he wouldn't have been able to leave alive. On top of that it was FREAKIN HOT...Notice how easily B-Hop dealt with him 2nd fight

                  ....so much for your "Not even close"

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                  • Dirk Diggler UK
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                    #10
                    In terms of the performance, Jones' was better and more clear cut. Although still not very impressive. It was just as bad a fight.

                    In terms of which Hopkins was better. Debatable. Hopkins had some of his best years at the other end of his career to when he fought Jones. Hes like a fine wine.

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