why didnt hopkins fight pavlik at 160???

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  • ИATAS
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    #21
    Originally posted by F-R-K-O
    Tarver = the massive weight loss issue.
    This is a very weak excuse because tarver was SCHOOLED, just like pavlik or trinidad. These three beatings hopkins beat them with his skill. If tarver's weight loss was an excuse, the only thing that can be said that he might not have a lot of power in his punches. That could have been true, no one knows, but it doesn't matter cuz hopkins never allowed him to hit him.

    You must admit, in all three of these fights hopkins style completely dominated them. There's no excuse for that. Hopkins is great at beating guys like this because he takes away their best weapons and when thats gone they have nothing left. With Pavlik he took away his jab and his one two, with that gone there's nothing. Tarver is the same way, he has to set up his shots in order for his punches to be effective, hopkins took it away, tarver cant set up his shots and the fights over. That's why he looks so good because they cannot do a single thing to him.

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    • BlackHat
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      #22
      B-Hop need to cut loose 1 of his balls to be able to fight at 160

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      • deuce_drop
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        #23
        hopkins stated a while ago that he was done fighting at 160, he wanted to move up to light heavy and win a belt there and do what SRR wasn't able to accomplish. he also said that he wasn't going to fight at middle weight anymore and that he was passing the torch, at least at the time to jermain taylor, after he beat tarver he told manny steward the best of luck with him and taylor at middle, i.e. meaning that he wasn't going back down in weight.

        and all this mess about hopkins picking on smaller fighters, the so called smaller fighters were guys like oscar and tito who walked aroudn at 160 or above and dropped 30 to 45lbs ( 45lbs in tito's case) to fight at smaller weights, so they would have an advantage. hopkins stayed at the saem weight for over 10 years, which is harder to do than to move up in weight for length of time. pavlik walked around at 175 or more anyways, and he was to drop to make middle weight.

        this whole lame ass arguement that fighters fighting smaller guys is bull****, unless they change the weigh in back to the day of the fight, we all are going to watch guys drop weight and go for the size advantage in any and all weight classes. it is something that has been done forever in boxing, and no one held a gun to oscar or tito's head to fight hopkins, and in one case hopkins was the complete underdog against this so called smaller guy who would blow up in weight more than hopkins weighed in his entire career between fights, and if i remember right too, hopkins was supposed to get stopped by tito. stop with the smaller guy logic when it really doesn't matter since every fighter drops down into a weight class that gives them an advantage, its the ones who hold down a division at the same weight is where the real hard stuff goes on.
        Last edited by deuce_drop; 10-27-2008, 03:02 PM.

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