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  • Clegg
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    #1

    Just looking at the criticism of Calzaghe's comments...

    ...and a lot of it seems to be coming from fans of fighters such as James Toney, Bernard Hopkins and Edison Miranda.

    Despite being a fan, I can understand why some people dislike Calzaghe. What I don't understand though is how certain posters are so critical of what he is saying, and yet have sigs and avatars devoted to the boxers mentioned above, all of whom have a history of talking trash and being disrespectful about opponents.

    I'm not keen on the kind of comments that Calzaghe has come out with about Pavlik. I'd also like to see Cal and Hop finally move on from their fight and stop making petty comments about each other.

    I much preferred the way Hopkins acted in the buildup to the Pavlik fight to the way he acted towards Calzaghe. I think that Ali was out of order in how he behaved towards Joe Frazier. So to me, my views on this are consistent, but that doesn't seem to be true of everyone else.

    Am I am overlooking something, or is it a case of double standards from some of you?
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    #2
    Originally posted by Clegg
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    Despite being a fan, I can understand why some people dislike Calzaghe. What I don't understand though is how certain posters are so critical of what he is saying, and yet have sigs and avatars devoted to the boxers mentioned above, all of whom have a history of talking trash and being disrespectful about opponents.
    them_apples is the funniest one to me. Hes got Chicken Bowe in his avvy!

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      #3
      Originally posted by Clegg
      ...and a lot of it seems to be coming from fans of fighters such as James Toney, Bernard Hopkins and Edison Miranda.

      Despite being a fan, I can understand why some people dislike Calzaghe. What I don't understand though is how certain posters are so critical of what he is saying, and yet have sigs and avatars devoted to the boxers mentioned above, all of whom have a history of talking trash and being disrespectful about opponents.

      I'm not keen on the kind of comments that Calzaghe has come out with about Pavlik. I'd also like to see Cal and Hop finally move on from their fight and stop making petty comments about each other.

      I much preferred the way Hopkins acted in the buildup to the Pavlik fight to the way he acted towards Calzaghe. I think that Ali was out of order in how he behaved towards Joe Frazier. So to me, my views on this are consistent, but that doesn't seem to be true of everyone else.

      Am I am overlooking something, or is it a case of double standards from some of you?
      Listen Ali Toney Hopkins can all talk **** they backed up their words. Title defenses, beating prime fighter and winning titles in other weight classes(not including Ali).

      Calzaghe is a joke and is nothing compared to these guys.

      Would Ali say I beat Foreman by a KO and that proves I am better than Frazier and a trilogy is not needed.

      Toney Ali Hopkins know how to promote a fight better than Calzaghe. What is the best thing Calzaghe had against Hopkins. If you fight me you will lose or when he brought out the wheelchair.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Flawless 2
        Listen Ali Toney Hopkins can all talk **** they backed up their words. Title defenses, beating prime fighter and winning titles in other weight classes(not including Ali).

        Calzaghe is a joke and is nothing compared to these guys.

        Would Ali say I beat Foreman by a KO and that proves I am better than Frazier and a trilogy is not needed.

        Toney Ali Hopkins know how to promote a fight better than Calzaghe. What is the best thing Calzaghe had against Hopkins. If you fight me you will lose or when he brought out the wheelchair.
        Title defences? Check (21)
        Beating prime fighters - Check
        Winning titles in other weight classes - Check (168 and 175 Linear)

        Thanks

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          #5
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          Title defences? Check (21)
          Beating prime fighters - Check
          Winning titles in other weight classes - Check (168 and 175 Linear)

          Thanks

          LOL You are a funny guy

          Is Calzaghe resume good as Toney Ali or Hopkins

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            #6
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
            Title defences? Check (21)
            Beating prime fighters - Check
            Winning titles in other weight classes - Check (168 and 175 Linear)

            Thanks
            yeah he's great. but then you watch him fight................
            [IMG]http://i285.***********.com/albums/ll67/barobinson1/hopcalz-1.gif?t=1218784000[/IMG]

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              #7
              Originally posted by Flawless 2
              LOL You are a funny guy

              Is Calzaghe resume good as Toney Ali or Hopkins
              not even close my dude.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Flawless 2
                LOL You are a funny guy

                Is Calzaghe resume good as Toney Ali or Hopkins
                Better than all 3 combined

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Flawless 2
                  Listen Ali Toney Hopkins can all talk **** they backed up their words. Title defenses, beating prime fighter and winning titles in other weight classes(not including Ali).
                  When did Ali backs up his words that Frazier was an uncle Tom?

                  Hopkins didn't back up his words against Calzaghe. He talked all that **** but his performance was not impressive and he lost despite publicly claiming that he would not.

                  Toney has talked trash about people that he has lost to as well.

                  Originally posted by Flawless 2
                  Calzaghe is a joke and is nothing compared to these guys.
                  Calzaghe's resume is not as good as Hopkins', but it's far better than Miranda's. Calzaghe is talking trash about Pavlik and Hopkins. One of those guys is not really on his level in the opinion of most people, the other guy he holds a victory other.

                  This isn't a case of a journeyman talking trash about Sugar Ray Robinson, much as you seem to think otherwise.

                  Originally posted by Flawless 2
                  Would Ali say I beat Foreman by a KO and that proves I am better than Frazier and a trilogy is not needed.
                  Not really the same thing for several reasons. If you want to compare Calzaghe to Ali, then yes, I think we can all agree who comes out on top. But the fact that Ali fought Frazier doesn't make his comments about him justified IMO.

                  Originally posted by Flawless 2
                  Toney Ali Hopkins know how to promote a fight better than Calzaghe. What is the best thing Calzaghe had against Hopkins. If you fight me you will lose or when he brought out the wheelchair.
                  I think that was a walking stick, wasn't it? But anyway this is irrelevant.

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                    #10
                    Ali backed up his word twice against Frazier
                    Calzaghe said he was going to KO Hopkins and got a lucky decision

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