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    #21
    Marvin Hagler wins IMO. Competitive fight. Hagler would need a few rounds to figure out Bernard. Regardless I think it'd be close. I kno some old timers wud say Hagler would beat Bernard's ass but prime for prime I don't think so.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Terrible...
      Hagler v Hopkins who ya got

      i think Hopkins footwork was too good for Hagler and Hopkins was too smart for him period i dont wanna take away from a great fighter but if the physically challenged Ray Leonard could decision him then i dont think Hopkins would struggle with him i know people will say Hagler was shot but Leonard was know spring chicken either and he has been inactive for 2 years

      Hopkins too smart for Hagler IMO negates all Hagler attributes by countering and using superior ring craft to decision him
      Hopkins UD in 12 or 15. Greatest Middleweight of all time!

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        #23
        Originally posted by Terrible...
        Hagler v Hopkins who ya got

        i think Hopkins footwork was too good for Hagler and Hopkins was too smart for him period i dont wanna take away from a great fighter but if the physically challenged Ray Leonard could decision him then i dont think Hopkins would struggle with him i know people will say Hagler was shot but Leonard was know spring chicken either and he has been inactive for 2 years

        Hopkins too smart for Hagler IMO negates all Hagler attributes by countering and using superior ring craft to decision him
        A prime Hagler had quick hands, quick feet, good reflexes, power on both hands, has multi-punch variety, fires quick combinations, can switch-hit with ease. is a southpaw, an iron chin.

        Hagler is no Pavlik. Hagler in his prime is just an awesome sight.

        Hopkins in all his greatness will not beat Hagler.

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          #24
          Originally posted by JoartCC
          A prime Hagler had quick hands, quick feet, good reflexes, power on both hands, has multi-punch variety, fires quick combinations, can switch-hit with ease. is a southpaw, an iron chin.

          Hagler is no Pavlik. Hagler in his prime is just an awesome sight.

          Hopkins in all his greatness will not beat Hagler.
          Yikes! Another good post from u.

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            #25
            Originally posted by warp1432
            Hopkins would have beat the middleweight version of Sugar Ray Robinson....He wouldn't have beaten Hagler though. Hagler vs Hopkins is close, but Hagler was a very good Boxer-Puncher in his prime and he could also hunt people down.

            For people wondering about Robinson vs Hopkins, it'd be close, but Robinson was a very inconsistent (and not to mention older) fighter at Middleweight. He was the best defensively, but he had great power and fast hands. I think Hopkins could very well pot shot him and beat him. Hopkins could rough him up now and then, but Hops would have to be careful because Robinson was very good in the clinch.
            I disagree immensely with the bold. Hopkins doesnt like movement, speed and angles. Robinson has all of them in massive quan******. Bad style matchup for Hopkins.

            I think Hopkins would have a much better chance against Hagler, because Hagler could be led relatively easily in fighting the wrong fight.

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              #26
              Originally posted by The_Executioner
              Yikes! Another good post from u.
              Noob.

              You never learn.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Thread Stealer
                As I've always said, this is a very close fight between two great, versatile fighters.

                Both guys are complete fighters. Hagler was a terrific boxer-puncher with a great jab, good combos, heavy hands, good set of legs, terrific chin, nice parrying skills and head movement, and he could slug it out as well and fight on the inside.

                Hopkins is a master of controlling the pace and picking his spots. He knows the angles and knows where to position himself to land good shots and avoid the incoming. Like Hagler, he is versatile. He can box from the outside using the ring, or maul guys up close and "stink it out". He has a big of dirty tricks to frustrate opponents. As proven throughout his career, he is very effective against lefties.

                Hagler had the heavier hands, superior jab, and was more proven in the slugging/pressure department. Hopkins was a little quicker and slicker, and just has a brilliant fighting brain in there.

                No matter how the fight takes place, I see it being very close. I doubt either guy gets stopped. Hopkins is slick and has a sound chin. Hagler's chin was great, and he didn't exactly have a soft body either.

                Over the years, Hagler was developed a reputation as a face-first brawler from people who don't watch enough of his fights, but he usually boxed behind his jab and broke guys down over the course of the fight. It'll probably be a pretty tactical fight, and I see Hopkins winning a close decision, with his straight right hand being the key.
                ...........good post

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                  #28
                  A prime Hopkins can go rounds but he would have a better chance at outpointing Hagler in a 12 round fight than a 15 round fight.

                  Hagler was never a 12 round fighter but I'm quite sure he would beat just about anyone in a 15 round battle.

                  I think Robinson would beat Hopkins as well, maybe Greb too but it's impossible to say since there's no actual film of his fights. We can only read old newspapers, books and quotes by his opponents that describe him as somewhat similar to Calzaghe.

                  Hopkins would beat all the Gerald McClellan and Julian Jackson puncher types rather easily.
                  Last edited by TheGreatA; 10-20-2008, 07:45 AM.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by TheManchine
                    A prime Hopkins can go rounds but he would have a better chance at outpointing Hagler in a 12 round fight than a 15 round fight.

                    Hagler was never a 12 round fighter but I'm quite sure he would beat just about anyone in a 15 round battle.

                    I think Robinson would beat Hopkins as well, maybe Greb too but it's impossible to say since there's no actual film of his fights. We can only read old newspapers, books and quotes by his opponents that describe him as somewhat similar to Calzaghe.

                    Hopkins would beat all the Gerald McClellan and Julian Jackson puncher types rather easily.
                    Hey Manchine, let's make it even more interesting

                    Monzon vs Hopkins? Not so much who you got, but how would you see the fight evolving.

                    Also would you pick Hagler over Monzon?

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                      #30
                      A prime Hops makes anyone look bad....Hopkins by DEC

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